Reply to: Why Chico will not go to heaven ...

[sasguru]

at least there are people who think.

[Chico]

tgaotu

yes , you are indeed a nice and kind person.

we just dont understand it. do we ?

Said one self styled atheist to another.

[EternalOptimist]

tgaotu

yes , you are indeed a nice and kind person.

why do some people feel the need to answer,flame,wind up, argue with, ridicule people with delusions, such as Chico.

Its strange because we encourage these delusions in our kids and grandkids. We hate it when someone tells our kids that santa doesnt exist.

I think we despise people like Chico because we are the generation that makes the decisions and implement things. We are the doers and we have left the dreamy days behind (for a while).
We use a set of rules , called reason and we are judged by results, we know that if people start from a weird position and dont use reason then there will be disaster and we wont get results. We see the disaster in the third world and we dont understand it, we see the disaster in religion and we dont understand it.

we KNOW that if it is given to us to solve we will solve it, because we have a track record. we know the method works.

so why do these idiots resort to believing in delusions ?? **** me tgaotu I dont know

we just dont understand it. do we ?

[OwlHoot]

I'll save Chico the trouble of embarrassing himself by pointing out that most wealthy fundamentalist Christians now maintain that Jesus was only talking metaphorically and when he said "eye of a needle" he was referring to a small gate in the walls of Jerusalem through which you could only pass a camel by taking off some of its bulkier luggage. Therefore stinking rich people can go to heaven as long as they toss a few scraps in the poor box.

Obvious really, when you think about it. As with most similar things, it's not do as I do, it's do as I say.

It's a mistranslation of the original New Testament Greek -"kamelos" was the word for a camel, and "kamilos" meant "rope". Jesus was comically comparing the difficulty of rich people getting into Heaven with that of trying to thread a rope through the eye of a needle; but Christians are understandably a bit reticent about highlighting imperfections of translation and interpretation in what is supposed to be the word of God.

[TGAOTU]

I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. (Matthew 19:24.)

By the standards of most of humanity, we are incredibly rich, hence heaven is barred to us. That includes you, Chico.

We're all doomed I tell yer ...

Are you doing this on purpose?

Why not leave Chico alone to what you feel are his delusions. He's not hurting you directly, in fact it appears that he thinks he's trying to save you in his own way. Let the man live his own way. We all live by some sort of code, why not leave Chico to his? If what he says doesn't agree with you just ignore him, resist the temptation to respond!

TGAOTU .

[EternalOptimist]

Ive noticed that if you use non standard stuff , he gets all huffy then a few weeks later he uses exactly the same technique back at others.

I spent a couple of posts calling him 'o evil one' last summer . he didnt like like it but I found him calling a poster it last week

how old is he ?

[sasguru]

He's lost his faith and by now is pissed our of his box, trawling the local knocking shops for a decent legover ...

Fungus

He he. I can just picture it ....

[Spartacus]

He's lost his faith and by now is pissed our of his box, trawling the local knocking shops for a decent legover ...

Fungus

That would be no surprise. He's only a troll with a (not very well) hidden non-Christian agenda anyway.

The only person I've recently seen around here espousing what I would call true Christian values is that Xerxes fellow.

[Fungus]

He's very quiet. Probably consulting with his Alpha Course "controller" to find out how to respond

He's lost his faith and by now is pissed our of his box, trawling the local knocking shops for a decent legover ...

Fungus

[Spartacus]

He's very quiet. Probably consulting with his Alpha Course "controller" to find out how to respond

What was the name of that stock answers webtulipe he was found to be using once? You know the one, it even boasted that the answers were arranged for easy cut and paste into arguments. I could do with a laugh.

Do you remember that funny one when he pasted in a stock answer that was arguing completely the opposite of what he was saying previously and he hadn't noticed?

[Fungus]

I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. (Matthew 19:24.)

By the standards of most of humanity, we are incredibly rich, hence heaven is barred to us. That includes you, Chico.

We're all doomed I tell yer ...

I don't go with all this money doesn't bring you happiness tripe. Lack of money certainly does bring unhappiness. I know numerous people who would either be paraplegic or dead had they not gone private rather than use the NHS. And if you are poor and old, you suffer from the cold, catch more diseases, don't have nice winter holidays in sunny climes, and so on.

The of course there's feck off wealth, whereby you have enough money that you can tell people who try to walk on you to feck off. Too often Christianity seems to teach dependence, servitude, poverty etc.

But then again, Christianity was the state religion for years, and it is unlikely that any religion would have thrived had it preached the pursuit of wealth and power, rather than poverty and obedience. Mmmm, now that I come to think about it, I'm begining to warm to Christianity. It's the perfect way to keep the proles in their place. Long live Christianity.

Tally ho! Toot toot.

Fungus

[Dundeegeorge]

It's a trick question, isn't it

Chico won't go to heaven because there isn't one, the qualifier being that you meant the heaven as believed in by those followers of christianity.

[sasguru]

He's very quiet. Probably consulting with his Alpha Course "controller" to find out how to respond

[Spartacus]

I'll save Chico the trouble of embarrassing himself by pointing out that most wealthy fundamentalist Christians now maintain that Jesus was only talking metaphorically and when he said "eye of a needle" he was referring to a small gate in the walls of Jerusalem through which you could only pass a camel by taking off some of its bulkier luggage. Therefore stinking rich people can go to heaven as long as they toss a few scraps in the poor box.

Obvious really, when you think about it. As with most similar things, it's not do as I do, it's do as I say.

[sasguru]

Well I would imagine that God judges wealth by the whole of humanity not the West alone? Given that most of the world's population are lucky if they get enough calories every day, we are incredibly rich.