Reply to: Argentina celebrates diplomatic coup as Hillary Clinton calls for talks over Falkland

[doodab]

This should shut them up:

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...s-1915210.html

[Mich the Tester]

I’m with Rog on that one.

[Mich the Tester]

What do we (Britain) get out of it?

Peace, oil and allies.

[Moscow Mule]

So it's an ideal moment to talk and set up trade deals and oil research deals that'll be of help to both Britain and Argentina for several generations, thereby relegating the Falklands to the side show it really should be.

What do we (Britain) get out of it?

[Mich the Tester]

de Kirchener's term is up next year.

She needs a common cause to rally the population after digging themselves out of a hole in the past x years.

So it's an ideal moment to talk and set up trade deals and oil research deals that'll be of help to both Britain and Argentina for several generations, thereby relegating the Falklands to the side show it really should be.

[Moscow Mule]

Oh, so you think it’ll all be sorted out with water pistols do you?

de Kirchener's term is up next year.

She needs a common cause to rally the population after digging themselves out of a hole in the past x years.

She's got a lot more sense than to organise an invasion against one of the best militaries in the world.

Also
1) Mount Pleasant - home to UK air superiority in the area.
2) Argentina, owner of no "stand-off" weapons.
3) UK, owner of multiple submarines capable of wiping every Argentine airbase off the map.

It's not a viable option. It wasn't a viable option in 1982 and the only reason they did it was because of idiot military dictators.

[Mich the Tester]

I think he means that Sabre-rattling does not always lead to fighting

No, it doesn’t. Neither does talking.

[EternalOptimist]

Oh, so you think it’ll all be sorted out with water pistols do you?

I think he means that Sabre-rattling does not always lead to fighting

[Mich the Tester]

No it won't.

Oh, so you think it’ll all be sorted out with water pistols do you?

[Moscow Mule]

That's what will happen

No it won't.

[Mich the Tester]

Unless its taken as an overture that the Falklands question is open for discussion.

It's not, until the children of the people directly affected by the war are dead.

It's just not going to happen soon, and any weakness on Britain's part by attending talks is foolhardy at best.

So you'd prefer it to end up with thousands of young Brits and thousands of young Argentinians being sent off to kill and maim each other? That's what will happen, and it's a lot more foolhardy than talking.

What happens in a war? Lots people, on both sides, like you and me and some fat old politicians, none of whom are going to end up at the wrong end of a gun, call out for a "tough stance", and "not showing any weakness". Then it all boils over with some minor incident and lots of very young people, too young to really understand what's going on, and certainly too young to be held responsible for the abject failure of the politicians, end up lying in cold, damp, muddy fields with little to eat, their best mate's innards splattered all over their faces and their bollocks blown into the next field.

Dulce et decorum etc...

[DimPrawn]

If the Falklanders are so desperately British, what is wrong with them relocating to Britain?

We could sell that island to the Argies for a few quid.

And with the money, the government could recruit lots of extra Diversity Outreach Consultants, build more asylum centres, pay themselves more in expenses, setup a dozen or so new unelected quangos....etc

[Moscow Mule]

I’m not saying Britain should just give up, but for heaven’s sake, talking and more importantly listening can’t do any harm.

Unless its taken as an overture that the Falklands question is open for discussion.

It's not, until the children of the people directly affected by the war are dead.

It's just not going to happen soon, and any weakness on Britain's part by attending talks is foolhardy at best.

[Mich the Tester]

It always surprises me that the people who take the trouble to come to Britain desperately desiring to be British are generally reviled and discriminated against, while those who live 12,000 miles away and continually say they want to remain British will be defended with all the military might HM government can muster at the expense of relations with otherwise peaceful and friendly democracies.

I’m not saying Britain should just give up, but for heaven’s sake, talking and more importantly listening can’t do any harm.

[The_Equalizer]

Esp. these rockhoppers

Those ones are causing me pain at present. They seem to enjoy diving.