Reply to: Turned down a contract

[Tarquin Farquhar]

I told a pimp the other day that it wasn't worth my while to apply for the role at that rate. Felt good

He tried selling it as "it's only a 4 week rolling contract so there's plenty of chance to find something else..." but I told him that no matter how short it was, if it wasn't worth my while, it's not worth my while.

Not as bad as telling you it's a low rate but at least it's long-term. I've never seen what's good about that.

[doodab]

the more people that stand their ground the sooner we will get back some respect and decent rates for everyone

That sounds an awful lot like union talk. 3 day week anyone?

[Support Monkey]

I'm doing you a favour by not taking tulipe rates. Only when lots of people refuse the low rates will the rates go up.

Spot on attitude to have Mich and absolutely right, if we bend over and take it now you can bet in a years time you will still be touching your toes.

Unfortunately at the moment there are people who are desperate and will take the rate and no one can blame them but the more people that stand their ground the sooner we will get back some respect and decent rates for everyone

[Ruprect]

Is this the weekly "look how big my c0.ck is, love Mitch" thread?

[rootsnall]

All the pimp told me was "south Wales" - he then guessed at Cardiff until I told him that it was more likely to be Newport.

Still - at that rate, unless it was in my study, I wasn't interested in the slightest.

I've had 5 1/2 months at home not working now, and could do with getting out of the house - but not at that price.

Well done. I'm pretty much only in the local market ( bench dweller as of today ) as I know the rates on offer won't make it worth my while staying in hotels and putting up with all the associated tulip. For local work I'll go down to bob rates.

[TheFaQQer]

Yup, much the same here, I've now had 4 seperate pimps call me about the same role in Swansea, I've told them all the same that since Swansea is a damn long way away (better part of 275 miles) and the rate is half what I'd consider that there's no way I'd think about being put forwards for it.

All the pimp told me was "south Wales" - he then guessed at Cardiff until I told him that it was more likely to be Newport.

Still - at that rate, unless it was in my study, I wasn't interested in the slightest.

I've had 5 1/2 months at home not working now, and could do with getting out of the house - but not at that price.

[TykeMerc]

DVLA?

Dunno to be honest, quite possibly, that or a company related to aircraft manufacture.

I didn't ask, as soon as the rate was mentioned I told them to bugger off...

[Tingles]

Yup, much the same here, I've now had 4 seperate pimps call me about the same role in Swansea, I've told them all the same that since Swansea is a damn long way away (better part of 275 miles) and the rate is half what I'd consider that there's no way I'd think about being put forwards for it.

DVLA?

[TykeMerc]

I told a pimp the other day that it wasn't worth my while to apply for the role at that rate. Felt good

He tried selling it as "it's only a 4 week rolling contract so there's plenty of chance to find something else..." but I told him that no matter how short it was, if it wasn't worth my while, it's not worth my while.

Yup, much the same here, I've now had 4 seperate pimps call me about the same role in Swansea, I've told them all the same that since Swansea is a damn long way away (better part of 275 miles) and the rate is half what I'd consider that there's no way I'd think about being put forwards for it.

[TheFaQQer]

I'm currently benched and I turned down a crappy rate the other day.

It's partly self respect and partly about feeling exploited, I'm damned if I'll take a lousy rate since my war chest is healthy and the location was pretty awful anyway.

I told a pimp the other day that it wasn't worth my while to apply for the role at that rate. Felt good

He tried selling it as "it's only a 4 week rolling contract so there's plenty of chance to find something else..." but I told him that no matter how short it was, if it wasn't worth my while, it's not worth my while.

[Tarquin Farquhar]

Agent on the phone this morning said ‘I see you have a few years Oracle and SQL Server DBA experience; can you write SQL queries?’

How did we get into the position where the finding of our livelihood is dependent on people like that, and then we give one day's work every week to them?

[Doggy Styles]

You want to know the future? Wind the clock back 20 years. You've got to earn trust before you get paid well - simple simple simple.

I hope so. Then perhaps Billy* won't find it quite so easy to jump the queue.

As a matter of interest, how does the number of agencies compare between now and then (20 years ago)?

*Billy Bullshit (Bob isn't much of a problem in my line of work)

[Mich the Tester]

Its not just rates before agreeing to anything always check the terms and conditions under which the agent operates. There are some enlightening changes coming up. I recently have rejected 2 jobs because the terms stitched you up. I out it doen to the fact most agencies are member of (cr)APSCo.Even extensions are now hiding naughty little nuggets in them and the agents attitude is take it or leave it. If you leave you'll not be working with us again.
What we need are agents who know what they're talking about. I often get calls from agents who obviously have never read my cv. i get the impression they're just sweet young things, or spikey haired suits. After all xeroids moved from copiers to office systems then to double glazing then to estate agents then to financial advisors, then to banks each time they move they get more money and do even more damage. Perhaps our time has come or is this too righ wing for our present culture?

Agent on the phone this morning said ‘I see you have a few years Oracle and SQL Server DBA experience; can you write SQL queries?’

Another ugly practice I'm seeing now is agents who want the payment terms to be just as long as their client's payment terms; sometimes even 90 days. Now I know that if I worked direct I'd have to accept this, but what's the f**king point of the agent if I have to wait that long for the money?

[Saurus]

Rates

Its not just rates before agreeing to anything always check the terms and conditions under which the agent operates. There are some enlightening changes coming up. I recently have rejected 2 jobs because the terms stitched you up. I out it doen to the fact most agencies are member of (cr)APSCo.Even extensions are now hiding naughty little nuggets in them and the agents attitude is take it or leave it. If you leave you'll not be working with us again.
What we need are agents who know what they're talking about. I often get calls from agents who obviously have never read my cv. i get the impression they're just sweet young things, or spikey haired suits. After all xeroids moved from copiers to office systems then to double glazing then to estate agents then to financial advisors, then to banks each time they move they get more money and do even more damage. Perhaps our time has come or is this too righ wing for our present culture?

[TykeMerc]

I'm currently benched and I turned down a crappy rate the other day.

It's partly self respect and partly about feeling exploited, I'm damned if I'll take a lousy rate since my war chest is healthy and the location was pretty awful anyway.