Reply to: So David Cameron went to Eton

[shaunbhoy]

i dont really give a toss who gets what job as long as they are good at it - and if they aren't they get the boot

That is essentially what we have in place now with the only depressing aspect being that none of them actually REALISE they are hopeless!

[jimjamuk]

Shirley there are good and bad toffs, good and bad ordinary people and just bad chavs.......

i dont really give a toss who gets what job as long as they are good at it - and if they aren't they get the boot

[Sysman]

I went to Eton!

Well, Eton Porny actually. It is within the walls of the college.

Can I be Prime Minister?

Yup.

[Doggy Styles]

Who remembers PMQs when Blair picked a fight with Michael Howard about privileged Tory upbringing?

Howard: "This state school pupil will not take lessons about privilege from the public school pupil opposite."

That stopped the whole debate until Blair resigned.

[sunnysan]

Eton etc

Well the whole class war is as people have said is the last card labour have to play and its making them look vindictive and stupid.

Somebody here said that people from privileged backgrounds cant possibly know what the common man in the street is experiencing?

Most of the Labour party have never had real jobs either, so they cannot really appreciate the common man either. Just becuase you pop into the odd working mans club up north on a publicity drive does not mean you are sympathetic or have any understanding of the needs of the working man.

Successive governments have severly fcked over the "working class", but their lot has not improved under NL, the very people who claim to represent their interests.

I dont care where the next PM went to school. It doesnt matter. Will he be a good PM? Lets see

[DodgyAgent]

How can the people described above devise policy that is sympathetic to the need of patients on mixed wards in Victorian hospitals.

One notable exception in the Tory shadow cabinet is Dr Liam Fox , I attented the same state comprehensive school as Liam in Scotland -situated in a new developmwent town near Glasgow.

After working hard for his medical degree at Glasgow University he worked as an army Doctor (then later also with my Mother who happened to work as a nurse at an NHS hospital in Scotland ) later he moved into Politics .

What does he know?

Any poetry today Alf?

[AlfredJPruffock]

How can the people described above devise policy that is sympathetic to the need of patients on mixed wards in Victorian hospitals.

One notable exception in the Tory shadow cabinet is Dr Liam Fox , I attented the same state comprehensive school as Liam in Scotland -situated in a new developmwent town near Glasgow.

After working hard for his medical degree at Glasgow University he worked as an army Doctor (then later also with my Mother who happened to work as a nurse at an NHS hospital in Scotland ) later he moved into Politics .

[DodgyAgent]

I'm a bit confused, as usual. What is "real world experience" which to some is the holy grail qualification for public office?

From where I sit it could mean many different things, and nobody can experience all of them. A nurse, a builder, a salesman, a banker, a shop assistant, a diplomat, a gardener, a bog cleaner, an actor, a soldier - they are all out there in the real world doing their thing.

So if someone becomes an MP, it seems daft to me to criticise them for the bits they did not experience.

A party needs a mix of experiences, plus collective intelligence to make best use of them. Whatever Cameron learned at Eton, presumably a decent all-round education and self confidence, is a resource to try and use.

If you want, say, medical experience in a party, the Tories have got Dr Liam Fox (and I assume Labour and Lib Dems have similar), and everyone in all parties has used the medical services at some time, Cameron more than most.

The only people who I'm not sure of are those who view politics as an end in itself. Mandelson for example. Clever manipulator he might be, but he's never done anything worthwhile for anyone in this country.

WHS

[Doggy Styles]

I'm a bit confused, as usual. What is "real world experience" which to some is the holy grail qualification for public office?

From where I sit it could mean many different things, and nobody can experience all of them. A nurse, a builder, a salesman, a banker, a shop assistant, a diplomat, a gardener, a bog cleaner, an actor, a soldier - they are all out there in the real world doing their thing.

So if someone becomes an MP, it seems daft to me to criticise them for the bits they did not experience.

A party needs a mix of experiences, plus collective intelligence to make best use of them. Whatever Cameron learned at Eton, presumably a decent all-round education and self confidence, is a resource to try and use.

If you want, say, medical experience in a party, the Tories have got Dr Liam Fox (and I assume Labour and Lib Dems have similar), and everyone in all parties has used the medical services at some time, Cameron more than most.

The only people who I'm not sure of are those who view politics as an end in itself. Mandelson for example. Clever manipulator he might be, but he's never done anything worthwhile for anyone in this country.

[Mich the Tester]

Coo-ee! See the.sig

So don't vote for a party. Vote for an individual.

Vote Chutney. You know it makes spoons.

[OrangeHopper]

I went to Eton!

Well, Eton Porny actually. It is within the walls of the college.

Can I be Prime Minister?

[RichardCranium]

Coo-ee! See the.sig

So don't vote for a party. Vote for an individual.

[ratewhore]

So your point is that Ainsworth didn't go to public school and he is crap.

Ummm ok, so let's only elect from public schools then and preferably zero real world experience.

happy now??

I appreciate you're being silly now. The Bob Ainsworth example is extreme in that he is extremely crap. But, taken as a whole, the cabinet are truly awful at running this country.

I don't give two farts what school politicians went to. I judge by performance and, on that basis, I judge the current shower to be absolutely fooking appalling...

[Mich the Tester]

The Bullingdon's more of a problem than Eton. They were a right bunch of tosspots and proud of it.

They're a bunch of young people who enjoy drinking, partying and f**king, just like many other young people. The difference is that they have a lot of money, so they drink more Taittinger than Special Brew, they dressup in tails for parties instead of tracksuits and they get it on with girls called Arabella instead of Tracy.

[DodgyAgent]

Venezuela has a Chavocracy. It’s not really working very well.