You're gonna love this...: Public sector pay races ahead in recession

[Bagpuss]

A pint of what he's on please

[threaded]

No not good on them. From my experience 90% of them in these useless government agencies are incompetent workshy argumentative twits who probably spend more time arguing and moaning about their wages than they do doing anything useful. Most of the depts can be run with 20% of the staff and budget!

[/Rant over]

I wrote a small Perl script that replaced 600 tax inspectors in Denmark. And this is a country where civil savants tend to work a little more than the UK, with 5% of the population, and a way way simpler tax system.

What wonders I could achieve in the UK if allowed...

[milanbenes]

Sysman, mine too

funny old world

Milan.

[Sysman]

That's news to me.

Same daily rate for the last 5 years, and I have more responsibility.

This may explain some of it:

He said the higher average pay of public sector workers was partly due to the fact that many cleaning jobs and other low-paid public sector work had been outsourced to the private sector.

[Sysman]

when I were a lad, I was led to believe that public sector pay was not as good as private sector, but the public sector pensions were better, seems the contempory public sector people have succeeded to reverse the pay situation

When I were a lad, lower pay was a given but it was seen as a acceptable trade off for job security and a solid index linked pension. After years of moaning about the pay and lack of expense accounts and company cars, my father retired at 55 and did very nicely indeed out of it.

[oracleslave]

That's news to me.

Same daily rate for the last 5 years, and I have more responsibility.

Surely "staff" is a keyword in that stat?

[Board Game Geek]

Official figures show that staff employed by the state are enjoying bigger pay rises

That's news to me.

Same daily rate for the last 5 years, and I have more responsibility.

[gingerjedi]

I've got an idea: increase tax on public sector workers to plug the gap in funding public sector pensions...

I like it, give them a 5% rise then clobber them with 10% extra tax.

I have a tax inspector mate who was moaning about the fact he may only get a 1% rise over the next year, I wonder how he would cope with a 60% pay cut followed by the sack 5 days before Christmas?

Talk about out of touch.

[AtW]

I've got an idea: increase tax on public sector workers to plug the gap in funding public sector pensions...

[centurian]

good on them and why not ?

Presumably you will have no problems if taxes go up further to pay for it then, given that the increases in public sector expenditure (which have gone mostly on pay) has not been properly funded (i.e. we have been borrowing the money) Sooner or later that gap will have to be plugged.

[centurian]

who probably spend more time arguing and moaning about their wages than they do doing anything useful.

Most of them still think they are underpaid - they've got no concept of the real world where people are taking pay cuts just to keep their jobs - and half of those still lose them anyway...

[JoJoGabor]

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good on them and why not ?

Milan.

No not good on them. From my experience 90% of them in these useless government agencies are incompetent workshy argumentative twits who probably spend more time arguing and moaning about their wages than they do doing anything useful. Most of the depts can be run with 20% of the staff and budget!

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[milanbenes]

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle6974029.ece

'Public sector workers earn 7% more on average than their peers in the private sector — a pay gulf that has more than doubled since the recession began.

Official figures show that staff employed by the state are enjoying bigger pay rises, working fewer hours and receiving pensions worth up to three times as much as those in the private sector.

Civil servants, National Health Service staff, council officials and other public sector workers have enjoyed a “golden age” under Labour, according to an investigation by The Sunday Times.

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when I were a lad, I was led to believe that public sector pay was not as good as private sector, but the public sector pensions were better, seems the contempory public sector people have succeeded to reverse the pay situation

good on them and why not ?

Milan.