Reply to: Anyone here not vaccinate their kids with MMR?

[shaunbhoy]

You'll forgive me if I pay the same attention to your wittering posts as I would to a small, not very intelligent, terrier barking in a corner.

Forgiving you is a given sg.
And I suspect any terrier worth its salt would have you pegged back in no time too.

[shaunbhoy]

Here is the reason that some mammals eat their children. When your teeth are brighter than you are, your time should be up.

Don't get above yourself. You anthropods don't have much to shout about!

[ASB]

I've just read this bit

It is further alleged that the three practitioners permitted a programme of investigations to be carried out on a number of children as part of the research study, some of which were not clinically indicated when the Ethics Committee had been assured that they were all clinically indicated. These investigations included colonoscopies and lumbar punctures. It is alleged that the performance of these investigations was contrary to the clinical interests of the children.

The keyword is alleged. TBH the treatment meted out to Wakefield (irrespective of the value of his paper) is wholly unreasonable, you can find alternative view on the allegations here. http://www.cryshame.co.uk//index.php...d=22&Itemid=94

Of course the funding and promotion of that website is from his supporters...

[oracleslave]

Is there no start to your talents?

You mean in the same way there is no start to your logic and powers of deduction?

Here is the reason that some mammals eat their children. When your teeth are brighter than you are, your time should be up.

[Pogle]

I've just read this bit

It is further alleged that the three practitioners permitted a programme of investigations to be carried out on a number of children as part of the research study, some of which were not clinically indicated when the Ethics Committee had been assured that they were all clinically indicated. These investigations included colonoscopies and lumbar punctures. It is alleged that the performance of these investigations was contrary to the clinical interests of the children.

[ASB]

It goes into detail of the alligations in the link

True, but I was trying to figure out if the "come to my son's party and I'll buy some of your blood" issue was part of the ethics hearing.

[sasguru]

If you look in the rear view mirror of that bubble that you live in, you will notice that you have missed yet another point. No change there then!!

You'll forgive me if I pay the same attention to your wittering posts as I would to a small, not very intelligent, terrier barking in a corner.

[ASB]

AFAIK its because he didn't disclose links/funding that could have biased his results.

It's not just that.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6289166.stm

[shaunbhoy]

Indeed the amount of money companies like Exxon have spent on funding anti-AGW websites/"think tanks"/op-eds/PR etc in a disinformation campaign that is swallowed whole by gullible cretins of your ilk is truly shocking.

HTH

If you look in the rear view mirror of that bubble that you live in, you will notice that you have missed yet another point. No change there then!!

[sasguru]

Pity they don't apply those principles to some of the GW Lobbyists eh?

Indeed the amount of money companies like Exxon have spent on funding anti-AGW websites/"think tanks"/op-eds/PR etc in a disinformation campaign that is swallowed whole by gullible cretins of your ilk is truly shocking.

HTH

[Pogle]

I'm not sure what the basis of the hearing is about. The dodgy conclusions (though I believe they have been partially replicated in other studies - unpublished) or the way in which the research was conducted and funded.

It goes into detail of the alligations in the link

[shaunbhoy]

AFAIK its because he didn't disclose links/funding that could have biased his results.

Pity they don't apply those principles to some of the GW Lobbyists eh?

[sasguru]

I'm not sure what the basis of the hearing is about. The dodgy conclusions (though I believe they have been partially replicated in other studies - unpublished) or the way in which the research was conducted and funded.

AFAIK its because he didn't disclose links/funding that could have biased his results.

[ASB]

http://www.gmc-uk.org/news/4129.asp

For anyone interested

Fitness to Practise hearings
Dr Andrew WAKEFIELD Professor John WALKER-SMITH Professor Simon MURCH
Fitness to Practise Panel

Planned dates: 19 November - 23 December 2009
This session is expected to last 25 days.

I'm not sure what the basis of the hearing is about. The dodgy conclusions (though I believe they have been partially replicated in other studies - unpublished) or the way in which the research was conducted and funded.

[shaunbhoy]

Is there no start to your talents?

You mean in the same way there is no start to your logic and powers of deduction?