Reply to: Have you got a clear sky tonight? (Sun 13th Dec)

[AtW]

Those lead slugs won't harm a Triffid. You've gotta cut its head off to kill it.

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Oh yes they can - just go see Jungle's shooting scene in Predator

[scooterscot]

no

[RichardCranium]

Those lead slugs won't harm a Triffid. You've gotta cut its head off to kill it.

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[AtW]

And yes we should give guns to an unbalanced, sexually frustrated, geeky wannabe businessman because that would make sense.

I did not say you should get any

[sasguru]

If it was legal, I'd get (purely for defensive purposes) a few Glocks, HK MP5 (w/ silencer), M4A1 w/ SOPMOD.

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Defensive purposes? Even the the most skanky Brum burglar is hardly likely to want to rob your bedsit.

And yes we should give guns to an unbalanced, sexually frustrated, geeky wannabe businessman because that would make sense.

[AtW]

Anyway, if you're defending your house, you want hand guns and an auto shotgun - how are you going to answer the door and still point a rifle?

The defence may involve shooting out of specially designed windows against multiple attackers (Triffids and stuff)

Sniper scope is good for rural houses - but if you don't want a scope to defend your home then it's fine by me

[Moscow Mule]

I live in a city, there's no point in having a sniper scope as it doesn't warrant it at the range I'd be shooting at.

Anyway, if you're defending your house, you want hand guns and an auto shotgun - how are you going to answer the door and still point a rifle?

[AtW]

That's a bit like comparing the Model T to a GT40.

The AK47 is the most popular weapon in the world, it will fire covered in mud or full of sand, and doesn't jam, overheat or break. If fires a Warsaw pact standard 7.62 shell, again probably the most popular cartridge in the world. If you can shoot straight, and you want a weapon to see you through civil unrest you could do a LOT worse.

I'd rather have accurate M4A1 with sniper scope in case of civil unrest - every bullet will count.

I've read up on AK and it appears that AK47 design borrowed heavily from MP44, in fact it appears the designer of MP44 had to work on AK47, naturally he could not be credited with the work...

The MP5 is a poor choice - it takes a LOT of looking after (needs oiling every day) and will overheat and jam after 3-4 magazines (if you are lucky).

MP5 is very good close quarters gun, if you get time to shoot 3-4 mags you'd probably make it out...

The M4A1 is an acceptable weapon, but is subject to a similar cleaning routine to the MP5. As for getting a SOPMOD - what are you going to get on your rail? I'd counsel against getting a grenade launcher....

How about laser?

[Moscow Mule]

AK47 is an improved version of StG 44, not accurate, too powerful - not very good.

That's a bit like comparing the Model T to a GT40.

The AK47 is the most popular weapon in the world, it will fire covered in mud or full of sand, and doesn't jam, overheat or break. If fires a Warsaw pact standard 7.62 shell, again probably the most popular cartridge in the world. If you can shoot straight, and you want a weapon to see you through civil unrest you could do a LOT worse.

The MP5 is a poor choice - it takes a LOT of looking after (needs oiling every day) and will overheat and jam after 3-4 magazines (if you are lucky).

The M4A1 is an acceptable weapon, but is subject to a similar cleaning routine to the MP5. As for getting a SOPMOD - what are you going to get on your rail? I'd counsel against getting a grenade launcher....

[AtW]

I still wouldn't trust you with a pair of scissors, let alone an AK47

AK47 is an improved version of StG 44, not accurate, too powerful - not very good.

If it was legal, I'd get (purely for defensive purposes) a few Glocks, HK MP5 (w/ silencer), M4A1 w/ SOPMOD.

Local well trained militia leaders should have access to heavier weaponry: RPGs, machine guns etc. In USA they are called "National Guards".

This is not for everyone - only people who go through tests and can afford 3rd party insurance should qualify. This could have been a good earner to the state actually - combined with natural attrition in criminals it is a win-win for taxpayers.

[oracleslave]

NuLiebor was in power much longer and the damage they did to this country is much bigger (in relative terms, maybe even in absolute) than Bush even if he did 3rd term.

If I had a choice whether to either jail all NuLiebor politicians or allow good gun laws, I'd go the the latter.

I still wouldn't trust you with a pair of scissors, let alone an AK47

[AtW]

Since I'm only a few miles up the road and have 100% cloud cover (8 oktas / overcast) + rain, I think you'll be safe tonight.

I am planning to be at a local boozer and leave £50 note as a tip to bartender

[AtW]

"But I know America to be a forward thinking country because otherwise why would you have let that retard and cowboy fella be president for eight years?"

NuLiebor was in power much longer and the damage they did to this country is much bigger (in relative terms, maybe even in absolute) than Bush even if he did 3rd term.

If I had a choice whether to either jail all NuLiebor politicians or allow good gun laws, I'd go the the latter.

[RichardCranium]

there is no way I'd be looking up at meteor showers

Since I'm only a few miles up the road and have 100% cloud cover (8 oktas / overcast) + rain, I think you'll be safe tonight.

[oracleslave]

After reading about triffids when I was young there is no way I'd be looking up at meteor showers, not even on TV - which reminds me, there ain't even guns legal in this country to deal with the fallout in such cases

Your desire to own a gun and make it legal in the UK makes me think of this every time:

"But I know America to be a forward thinking country because otherwise why would you have let that retard and cowboy fella be president for eight years?
"We were very impressed. We thought it was nice of you to let him have a go, because, in England, he wouldn't be trusted with a pair of scissors."