Reply to: Free money for Labour voters

[Tingles]

Not Teeside!

I live on the edge of the Peak district - close to M1 / Leeds Brad / Manchester airports...

I'm happy.

[MrMark]

"The centre was a commitment under the government's Low Carbon Industrial Strategy, and is supported by £15m of government funding and £10m from development agency Yorkshire Forward."


Plus there's another £30m on its way according to local radio and TV last week.

Question for the Southerners here. If you were offered £50k up-front, would you re-locate to Teesside?

[Tingles]

This what? Why should Rolls Royce relocate?

"The centre was a commitment under the government's Low Carbon Industrial Strategy, and is supported by £15m of government funding and £10m from development agency Yorkshire Forward."


Plus there's another £30m on its way according to local radio and TV last week.

[Bagpuss]

And this -


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/s...re/8392967.stm

This what? Why should Rolls Royce relocate?

[Tingles]

And this -


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/s...re/8392967.stm

[NoddY]

That's not exactly true, how would the banks have acted under any other government? Differently? I don't think so. Light hand and lack of regualtion isn't exaclty a socailist principle. The underlying fact is unbridled capitalism always leads to disaster. Just look at the History books.

The real disaster is the bailout. The other disaster is letting banks get 'too big to fail'. The answer would be to force them to insure their deposits; but that sounds a little like hard work for them, holding gold and stuff.

I'm not going down the -ism route; because it's not that simple when you have Labour behaving like Tories and vice versa. All politicians pi$$ in the same pot and they've both presided over Britain's relative decline since WW1, standing back with their arms folded.

[AtW]

Bankers vote Labour - why shoot the goose that lays the golden egg? It's obvious Labour are clueless about money because if they weren't the country wouldn't be bankrupt.

I am pretty sure Tories would have also ridden the wave of debt in order to stay in Govt for as long as possible.

The only difference would have been in waste of money on public services and maybe a bit lower direct taxes.

[Bagpuss]

Bankers vote Labour - why shoot the goose that lays the golden egg? It's obvious Labour are clueless about money because if they weren't the country wouldn't be bankrupt.

That's not exactly true, how would the banks have acted under any other government? Differently? I don't think so. Light hand and lack of regualtion isn't exacty a socailist principle. The underlying fact is unbridled capitalism always leads to disaster. Just look at the History books. Greed and Fear, Greed and Fear

[NoddY]

Is that so the Bankers will vote Labour?

Yours
DimPrawn

Bankers vote Labour - why shoot the goose that lays the golden egg? It's obvious Labour are clueless about money because if they weren't the country wouldn't be bankrupt.

[Bagpuss]

Not really. To be cynical would be to set the £60m against the trillion-and-a-bit that the banks have got (figure from here) and realise it's about 1/20,000 as much so what the hell?

Is that so the Bankers will vote Labour?

Yours
DimPrawn

[AtW]

Isn't this about social cohesion.

I think that it is important to recognise that Teeside was part of the Industrial Powerhouse that made this country into an empire.

We should be helping them to adapt to a new world where industry is not a western European pre-occupation

The Empire was before the industrial revolution (TIR) surely?

In fact one could argue that TIR was the point when decline of the Empire started - if you can make big £££ whilst still being on this island then why bother going to far lands and risking lifes?

IGMC

[Peoplesoft bloke]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tees/8402054.stm

Am I being cynical?

No. You're being a simpleton.

[thunderlizard]

Am I being cynical?

Not really. To be cynical would be to set the £60m against the trillion-and-a-bit that the banks have got (figure from here) and realise it's about 1/20,000 as much so what the hell?

[HairyArsedBloke]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tees/8402054.stm

The government has announced a £60m aid package to help Teesside recover from the loss of 1,700 jobs at the Corus steelworks plant in Redcar.

Business Secretary Lord Mandelson said it would offer "direct and immediate" help to the workers who face losing their jobs at Teesside Cast Products.



Am I being cynical?

They have previous form.

[DimPrawn]

Stop that you are just being silly.

Sorry. Too much coffee. I blame Maxwell House.