Reply to: Can AtW implement NHS IT system for 100 times less than actual cost?

[Moscow Mule]

How many have you got? I've got 6, maybe

HERETIC. BURN HIM.

[AtW]

You spoke too soon and I haven't even had to use a sockie yet.

How many have you got? I've got 6, maybe

[oracleslave]

Well, the people (and sockpuppets) have spoken... clearly even AndyW's mum could do it and surely for a lot less than £12 bln

You spoke too soon and I haven't even had to use a sockie yet.

[MrMark]

It needs to be central because it is much easier to guarantee up time and performance for one central location than many local ones, this does not mean DB can't be replicated to a couple of regional data centers.

Either way £12 bln seems a ridiculous amount for it, heck for any IT project...

You're right, but it does seem that we're controlled by cretins (doesn't say a lot about us, either! ) I think I'll scream the next time someone who claims to know about IT starts shouting how performance is affected by tables containing millions of rows...

[AtW]

Well, the people (and sockpuppets) have spoken... clearly even AndyW's mum could do it and surely for a lot less than £12 bln

[lilelvis2000]

Oh, you think the 12bn was for an IT project? I thought it was a way of ensuring a lucrative post election career.

Isn't the former health secretary a member of BT's board? hmmmm...

[DiscoStu]

I think the question should be can AtW follow someone else's requirements and not tell them that they're wrong

[minestrone]

Look at the tulipe you came up with for no money, god knows the crap you could come up with if you had resources and money.

[threaded]

What are you doing posting on here this morning?

I heard that there are about 100 world leaders who have travelled to Copenhagen to meet you.

They're a bit delayed by the fog.

[TheFaQQer]

What are you doing posting on here this morning?

I heard that there are about 100 world leaders who have travelled to Copenhagen to meet you.

Are you suggesting that Threaded is the cause of global warming?

[oracleslave]

Do you think I go on about the very good reason Denmark is considered #1 for Government IT a bit too much?

Not at all

[Gonzo]

Blowing my own horn here, but I'm one of the people that built the new 'NHS' IT system here in Denmark.

What are you doing posting on here this morning?

I heard that there are about 100 world leaders who have travelled to Copenhagen to meet you.

[threaded]

That's unlike you!

Do you think I go on about the very good reason Denmark is considered #1 for Government IT a bit too much?

[TheFaQQer]

Wow, a poll that is almost as balanced as the Daily Mail's "Should the NHS allow gipsies to jump the queue?" poll.

The answer is quite clearly a no, but that isn't an option. It's nothing to do with needing expensive project managers, or anything else for that matter.

AtW, if you are so confident that you can do it, then go do it and sell it to the NHS. It's called speculation - if you build it, they will come. And if you build it, and it works, then you can probably sell it for significantly more than £10 million.

[threaded]

It needs to be central because it is much easier to guarantee up time and performance for one central location than many local ones,

Only in the minds of management types. Explaining distributed systems and performance to people who have problem holding a mouse the right way up is the real performance drag in such systems.

this does not mean DB can't be replicated to a couple of regional data centers.

You're thinking is a little old fashioned, but correct. Why not send updates to multiple servers, then they never need to replicate above a background process to recover lost messages.

Either way £12 bln seems a ridiculous amount for it, heck for any IT project...

Oh, you think the 12bn was for an IT project? I thought it was a way of ensuring a lucrative post election career.