Reply to: Historic day today

[thunderlizard]

That is basically what happens in a more gun-toting society. You get a few more murders and assorted bullet-related injuries, and quite a bit less casual crime.

[RichardCranium]

Gun crime statistics

The murder rate here is a fifth of what it is in Switzerland, and less than a quarter of what it is in Germany.

On the "Murders per capita", UK comes 46th. So we are not using other methods to kill one another.

On the "assults per capita", UK comes 8th. That rather suggests we would be killing one another rather than merely assaulting one another, if we had guns.

[lilelvis2000]

To be fair though, regarding the USA you are talking about a society that thinks nudity is more dangerous than violence

And they seem to make a lot of both!

[PM-Junkie]

Works fine in France.

Works fine in Germany.

Works fine in Swissland.

Where else in EU guns are legal?

Gun crime statistics

The murder rate here is a fifth of what it is in Switzerland, and less than a quarter of what it is in Germany. If it's all the same to you, we'll keep it that way thanks very much. Thankfully your idea of "works fine" doesn't match with what most people want.

But like I say, if you want to have a gun do feel free to go live in a country that allows you to have one. Might I suggest South Africa?

[lilelvis2000]

I thought gun laws in France are very tight. Most hand guns are strictly for target shooting and you can't carry conceled weapons. Fairly similar to the UK I think????

[AtW]

Oh yeah. it does a great job in the USA. I'd be afraid that a) I'd have to keep it under my pillow, b) that my kid would get a hold of it and kill himself

Nope. sorry, keep the gun laws as they are.

Works fine in France.

Works fine in Germany.

Works fine in Swissland.

Where else in EU guns are legal?

[PM-Junkie]

Oh yeah. it does a great job in the USA. I'd be afraid that a) I'd have to keep it under my pillow, b) that my kid would get a hold of it and kill himself

Nope. sorry, keep the gun laws as they are.

To be fair though, regarding the USA you are talking about a society that thinks nudity is more dangerous than violence

[lilelvis2000]

No, I am not - next door in Europe it is possible to legally own firearms, this country is totally backwards in it's current policies when it comes to right to self defense (firearms help even out the odds in it).

Oh yeah. it does a great job in the USA. I'd be afraid that a) I'd have to keep it under my pillow, b) that my kid would get a hold of it and kill himself

Nope. sorry, keep the gun laws as they are.

[AtW]

I wouldn' trust you with a potato peeler, let alone a firearm.

Are you a potato? That would explain

[PM-Junkie]

Whatever else, at least I can comfort myself with the knowledge that were I to move to another country to live (which I wouldn't), I would never be so pig flippin' ignorant as to tell my hosts how to run their country.

Unlike a certain person on this forum.

If you don't like it you know where the door is. If you don't like how this country is run there are lots of others to choose from.

[RichardCranium]

Just got to jump through hoops to get the certificate.

Really?

That doesn't seem to me to be a sensible basis for assessing the responsibility of an applicant.

[lilelvis2000]

Big business has been running the world for the last decade anyway?

and their lobbyists. And don't forget the banks!

[DimPrawn]

No, I am not - next door in Europe it is possible to legally own firearms, this country is totally backwards in it's current policies when it comes to right to self defense (firearms help even out the odds in it).

I wouldn' trust you with a potato peeler, let alone a firearm.

[AtW]

You are having a laugh, Shirley?

No, I am not - next door in Europe it is possible to legally own firearms, this country is totally backwards in it's current policies when it comes to right to self defense (firearms help even out the odds in it).

[HairyArsedBloke]

It gets worse.

The CESMs have invaded the city.

Bravo Sarkozy, more, more, more ....

It is about the only thing that will get the UK to leave the EU.