Reply to: Boomed! Why everyone is voting Labour in a recession

[TimberWolf]

Mandelson has already stopped saying that we won't be going to the IMF. He said to Jon Snow that we won't be at the head of the queue, but he refused to say that we won't be in the queue. He said that he wants to "de-stigmatise" going to the IMF.

So there you go: it is already becoming acceptable.

Yeah, it's like visiting a health spa, apparently. Hopefully like one of them Swedish mixed sex ones where nudity is mandatory, containing lots of young, fit lithe women with firm... But anyway I digress.

[AlfredJPruffock]

But if you talk to many voters, they don't understand that, or the consequences, and they don't care because they think it's got nothing to do with them. It's a government problem.

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Since when did the voters care about anything excluding how much they can profit from the parrty they will cast their vote for - it is only self interest.

As long as house prices are increasing with a bloated public sector - the voters will return Labour - say what you will but this is what will happen next year.

I have seen the future - and - you're not going to like it.

And you thought you had seen the last of the Nightmare Man - Mr Blair ?

[Tarquin Farquhar]

If Labour do win the next election (and god I hope that they don't) then the bond prices will fall, increasing government's debt and the borrowing cost of any company based in the UK. Then it will be time to go to the IMF again.

Mandelson has already stopped saying that we won't be going to the IMF. He said to Jon Snow that we won't be at the head of the queue, but he refused to say that we won't be in the queue. He said that he wants to "de-stigmatise" going to the IMF.

So there you go: it is already becoming acceptable.

[Doggy Styles]

According to the UK borrowing clock we're racing past £815 billion at the moment at a massive 12% of GDP per annum. The interest on that must be close to £40 billion a year, which is adding to it.

But if you talk to many voters, they don't understand that, or the consequences, and they don't care because they think it's got nothing to do with them. It's a government problem.

That's why a party that has caused runaway debt through its incompetence is still attracting 29% in the polls, and may yet get a share of power after the next general election.

[worzelGummidge]

If Labour do win the next election (and god I hope that they don't) then the bond prices will fall, increasing government's debt and the borrowing cost of any company based in the UK. Then it will be time to go to the IMF again.

Bond prices are holding up at the moment due to the believe in a Tory win and thus financial competence returning to government in order to get the nation debt down to a more manageable level.

I think that there are hard times ahead for whoever wins (Tory or Labour) but with Labour the country will be bankrupt due to the increase in the bond prices due to the markets lack of confidence in Labour.

[RichardCranium]

Now if we could just get the number of MPs down to about 4 or so.

That'd be plenty.

[lilelvis2000]

Yup, it would take a massive change in voting to make a tory government with even a slight majority. Labour in with a slim majority. Labour rebels will really hold power.

Now if we could just get the number of MPs down to about 400 or so.

[HairyArsedBloke]

As I predicted earlier this year - provding Labour can head off the SNP challenge in Scotland - which they appear to be doing - and with a housing boom on the cards - I forseee another Labour victory albeit with a reduced majority.

All those on welfare bens and not fortgetting the mass of civil seravants and state sector jobs know which side their bread is buttered on.

The Tories have only austerity to offer - this will not win votes.

Sadly, I think you have a very good chance of being right.

[Jeebo72]

WHS.

This is the Playstation generation voting. They want it all, they want it now, they'll borrow to get it and vote for a government that does the same.

Who cares as long as they get their £20K in the pocket tax free benefits.

Vote Labour, vote free money!

You are right, and these benefits will have to be removed after the next election no matter who get's in. Labour are still borrowing this money in an attempt to get through the next election. But even they know it can't go on. If they do get in again, then it's prob a return to the rubbish in the streets and strikes of the 70s. And as such i'm off.

But for the first time, the playstationers are having their credit cards taken away, and finding that being on a lending blacklist is quite bad after all and that they can't live like posh and becks on other peoples money... The Blairite new labour dream is finally dead. And if the country doesn't have enough intelligence to vote labour out, then the country is f*****.

[gingerjedi]

WHS.

This is the Playstation generation voting. They want it all, they want it now, they'll borrow to get it and vote for a government that does the same.

Who cares as long as they get their £20K in the pocket tax free benefits.

Vote Labour, vote free money!

Whatever you want to do, do it now and pay later
Whatever you want to say, say it now and pay later
Whatever you want to clean, wash it now and go later
Whatever you want to do, do it now and pay later

Coz it's no problem if you play it cool
Things are different if you act the fool

The electric mistress always sounds so bold
She says I'm free to do anything I'm told
I check the latest newsflash it's sensational!
I feel so seduced tell me to reproduce

Whatever you want to do, do it now and pay later
Whatever you want to say, say it now and pay later
Whatever you want to pray, pray it now and pay later
Whatever you want to do, do it now and pay later

Coz it's no problem if you play it cool
Things are different if you act the fool

Whatever you want to do, do it now and pay later
Whatever you want to say, say it now and pay later
Whatever you want to clean, wash it now and go later
Whatever you want to do, do it now and pay later

Coz it's no problem if you play it cool
Things are different if you act the fool

Play it cool - SFA

[EternalOptimist]

most working labour voters hate the scroungers more than we do. The problem is, there are so many scroungers

[DimPrawn]

Free money is by definition worthless. See Zimbabwe, 1930s Germany etc. Can someone explain that to labour voters?

They can still spend it down ASDA on a crate of wife beater.

Everyone here needs to face up to one thing. Gordon IS going to win the next election and Britain IS going to go bankrupt.

The only way to escape it is to emigrate.

[Mich the Tester]

WHS.

This is the Playstation generation voting. They want it all, they want it now, they'll borrow to get it and vote for a government that does the same.

Who cares as long as they get their £20K in the pocket tax free benefits.

Vote Labour, vote free money!

Free money is by definition worthless. See Zimbabwe, 1930s Germany etc. Can someone explain that to labour voters?

[DimPrawn]

The Tories have only austerity to offer - this will not win votes.

WHS.

This is the Playstation generation voting. They want it all, they want it now, they'll borrow to get it and vote for a government that does the same.

Who cares as long as they get their £20K in the pocket tax free benefits.

Vote Labour, vote free money!

[Mich the Tester]

The Tories have only austerity to offer - this will not win votes.

the prevention of national bankruptcy