Reply to: How Gordon can win the next election..?

[Paddy]

So let me see if I have understood the situation:

You can vote for the Tory's who are crap

Or you can vote for Labor who are even more crap.

Is that it??


PZZ

Yes, that is why we are fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan; these contries need our form of democracy.

[AtW]

Hung parliament?

[TimberWolf]

Remember that film about the bus wired to explode if it slows below 50 MPH? Well, using that analogy, we're the passengers, and Brown is the manic driver _and_ the guy who wired up the bomb!

Someone else agrees:
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/7977/runawaybus2.gif (SWF)

[OwlHoot]

I was under the impression that the Lib Dems were half-way between Labour and the Tories. Doesn't that make them neutral ground? And how can they be crap if they've never been given the chance?

That's the impression they like to give; but in reality many are so far to the left of Labour they're a speck on the horizon.

[pzz76077]

I forgot to say - better the devil you know eh??

PZZ

[pzz76077]

Yes.

You can just about get a fag paper between them IMV.

How effective will the next incumbent after the Goon Brown for the next 5-10 years.

If anyone thinks that there will be change, fireworks etc for the next decade, then they need to stand in front of the mirror and repeatedly slap themselves till they come round to reality before they should be trusted with a vote in their hand.

Who voted Liebor in the past and is now slagging them off like a right Royal hippocrate??

Be honest now people!

PZZ

[Addanc]

Lisbon treaty ratified by Czechs, Cameron declares that there will be no retrospective referendum resulting in the Tories losing lots of votes to UKIP. Hung parliament?

[TinTrump]

So basically who you vote for is determined by good old "prejudice".

Not at all. I thought I'd made it clear about his lack of credentials with regards to exposure to industry etc. If you'd seen "Dispatches" about Dave C. you'd know he's not been shy to exploit his royal connections on occasion. So the reference is, I believe, relevant.

Doggy S. has made pertinent comments about the public repositioning of parties. But Labour has shown its love for big government and
regulating peoples' lives is as strong as ever. Hardly the liberal Britain that I want to live in.

[HairyArsedBloke]

Gordon came to my office last week and gave a very good speech - I have to say, he took a lot of time to research the company, and time to meet and greet.

I honestly see him in a different light now.

Which worries me!

Ah. You might want to check out what Guido thinks about that. Tip: Get you CV up-to-date.

[DodgyAgent]

I'll be voting via proxy for the LibDems.

Always struck me growing up how being left or right wing was a more appealing path for many teenagers. A black and white world is easier to understand and defend, for good or ill.

I voted LibDem in '97 but was still relieved the Tories were ousted. But I had not a few arguments with friends who rejoiced in Labour coming to power; couldn't they see the dearth of talent there (Blair excepted, not that I'm a fan) and how much they'd lost with the death of John Smith? Didn't they recognise type of politican Blair was and the people he surrounded himself with? The Ecclestone affair, so early on, set the tone.

The middle ground hasn't been fashionable for years in the UK, but at least I know where I am with regard to civil liberties and unwarranted foreign wars. As for the economy, Cable had Brown's number a few years back. Cameron and Osbourne? In what shape or form are they political heavyweights? Cameron has never achieved anything in private industry; he's another career politician from la-de-dah stock who'll tell you do as I say, not as I do.

So basically who you vote for is determined by good old "prejudice".

[Doggy Styles]

I'll be voting via proxy for the LibDems.

Always struck me growing up how being left or right wing was a more appealing path for many teenagers. A black and white world is easier to understand and defend, for good or ill.

I voted LibDem in '97 but was still relieved the Tories were ousted. But I had not a few arguments with friends who rejoiced in Labour coming to power; couldn't they see the dearth of talent there (Blair excepted, not that I'm a fan) and how much they'd lost with the death of John Smith? Didn't they recognise type of politican Blair was and the people he surrounded himself with? The Ecclestone affair, so early on, set the tone.

The middle ground hasn't been fashionable for years in the UK, but at least I know where I am with regard to civil liberties and unwarranted foreign wars. As for the economy, Cable had Brown's number a few years back. Cameron and Osbourne? In what shape or form are they political heavyweights? Cameron has never achieved anything in private industry; he's another career politician from la-de-dah stock who'll tell you do as I say, not as I do.

Over the past 12 years the middle ground has been very fashionable in the UK.

Labour moved towards the centre under Tony Blair. After three election defeats, the Tories finally did the same under David Cameron. Since then they have been scrapping to prove who is the most middle-ground, middle-England party.

The Lib Dems, turfed out of the left-of-centre by Tony Blair, sought refuge further left and more or less stayed there with their high tax, more interventionist policies. Vince Cable is certainly admired, and has been proved correct in his warnings to Brown but, to be honest, only a fool would not realise that spending more than you earned during the good times was certain to end in tears during the bad (Brown is a fool.)

David Cameron might well be a toff, but I don't understand why that matters. It might even be an advantage, looking at the performance of non-toffs since the eighties who have led the main two parties: Brown, Major, Kinnock and Foot.

[TimberWolf]

Gordon came to my office last week and gave a very good speech - I have to say, he took a lot of time to research the company, and time to meet and greet.

I honestly see him in a different light now.

Which worries me!

Was he there for an interview?

[Wilmslow]

Gordon came to my office last week and gave a very good speech - I have to say, he took a lot of time to research the company, and time to meet and greet.

I honestly see him in a different light now.

Which worries me!

[TinTrump]

I'll be voting via proxy for the LibDems.

Always struck me growing up how being left or right wing was a more appealing path for many teenagers. A black and white world is easier to understand and defend, for good or ill.

I voted LibDem in '97 but was still relieved the Tories were ousted. But I had not a few arguments with friends who rejoiced in Labour coming to power; couldn't they see the dearth of talent there (Blair excepted, not that I'm a fan) and how much they'd lost with the death of John Smith? Didn't they recognise type of politican Blair was and the people he surrounded himself with? The Ecclestone affair, so early on, set the tone.

The middle ground hasn't been fashionable for years in the UK, but at least I know where I am with regard to civil liberties and unwarranted foreign wars. As for the economy, Cable had Brown's number a few years back. Cameron and Osbourne? In what shape or form are they political heavyweights? Cameron has never achieved anything in private industry; he's another career politician from la-de-dah stock who'll tell you do as I say, not as I do.

[Doggy Styles]

True - I was rather disappointed that the Lib Dem rep on that BNP Question Time show hardly said anything. Everybody else just jumped in and it was like he was waiting for them to make c***s of themselves.