Reply to: EDS Pay Hourly ?

[Rebecca Loos]

and is the term "professional day" defined anywhere in the contract?
if not, it can mean whatever people like.
I also have a contract that says "£xxx per professional day"
But I do charge extra time on anything over 7.5 hours
If the PM stops agreeing to this arrangement (hasn't happened yet), I will limit my hours to 7.5 a day

so why don't you work your 7.5 hours and if the PM goes "hey where are you going" you say "well I have worked my day, do you want me to stay? £xx per additional hour please"

and boredsenseless you are right - a log at hour level becomes then quite important, for both parties.

[boredsenseless]

Does anyone know if EDS only pay hourly rates ? Thats what I was told by an agency (Spring). The reason I was asking was that the rate isnt that good but the agent's spin on it was that everyone does more than the 7.5 standard hours and so this would increase my daily income.

I'm sure the agent will happily sanction a daily rate based on 7.5 * the hourly rate so long as your timesheet records the actual hours done - purely for a statistical check on the project planning you understand

[Moose]

I think expat means day rate as in "professional day".

If you have a contract which for all intents and purposes says something like £xxx per 7.5 hour day then its probably not much different from being on an hourly rate, in which case you can probably charge the extra hours.

If you have a contract which quotes per day, "professional day" or similar, and especially if the phrase "minimum xx hours per week" is used then client/agent has something totally different in mind.

That's what they do at Abbey, I went from 35 hours a week, to 5 'professional days' a week....basically holding you there over the core hours regardless of how many hours worked.

Not nice....too much like a permy.

[Joe Black]

I think expat means day rate as in "professional day".

If you have a contract which for all intents and purposes says something like £xxx per 7.5 hour day then its probably not much different from being on an hourly rate, in which case you can probably charge the extra hours.

If you have a contract which quotes per day, "professional day" or similar, and especially if the phrase "minimum xx hours per week" is used then client/agent has something totally different in mind.

[Rebecca Loos]

why not? I am on a day rate but charge overtime for any hour worked over 7.5 a day

[expat]

Does anyone know if EDS only pay hourly rates ?

Would you prefer a daily rate? Don't expect a "day" to be 7.5 hours then!

[mcquiggd]

45ph? Not enough blood money to work for EDS.

[Moose]

my mate...

Looks like the what the agent said was the way EDS works.

My mate has just been offered a position with EDS on 45 ph hourly rate for a 7.5 hour day.

Seems standard enough.

[Arun V]

Thanks for the replies everyone.

Looks like the what the agent said was the way EDS works.

I was there back in 2002 and they do pay hourly, at the time I was a permy but I worked with 99% contractors who did 50/60 hour weeks to make the poor hourly rate worthwhile.

[HankWangford]

EDS Hourly Gravy train

I was there back in 2002 and they do pay hourly, at the time I was a permy but I worked with 99% contractors who did 50/60 hour weeks to make the poor hourly rate worthwhile.

[wonderwaif]

sounds right

Does anyone know if EDS only pay hourly rates ? Thats what I was told by an agency (Spring). The reason I was asking was that the rate isnt that good but the agent's spin on it was that everyone does more than the 7.5 standard hours and so this would increase my daily income.

I got offered a gig with EDS back in 2001 with the same story.
The agent said the rate was below market, but there was sufficient overtime to make it up to a decnt rate.
I turned it down as I believe overtime should improve a reasonable rate, not make a poor rate acceptable.

[Francko]

aye Franko,

and what other answer would you like ?

Milan.

Making progresses. AtW must have been working hard lately.

[milanbenes]

aye Franko,

and what other answer would you like ?

Milan.

[Francko]

i've only heard about the job yesterday and so havent been to an interview or signed the contract. the reason i was asking was to see if the EDS only do hourly rates is something the agent made up to disguise a low daily rate or if it EDS's standard practice ?

Arun, you are asking sensible questions to our local bot. Do not expect any reasonable reply but just the fair output combinations milanbot was prepared to answer.

[milanbenes]

well, that's down to your negotiation skills

what is the technology area, how much competition are you up against, how much demand is there for your skills

if the agent is offering less than market then he won't find anyone will he ?

day rates, hourly rates, doesn't matter as long as you are happy with the total

Milan.