Reply to: 90 days

[Phoenix]

Dunno why you're all so happy about the 90 days, he managed to up it from 14 to 28 days, and IIRC it was only 3 days when he first came to power.

Ah! Someone talking sense at last!
Now do you see? Now do you see?
Stats, Facts, percentages....Cobblers..Politicians are more than a match for the moaning minies on this site!

Quick copy and paste some more Friday doom and gloom!

[Lucifer Box]

Dunno why you're all so happy about the 90 days, he managed to up it from 14 to 28 days, and IIRC it was only 3 days when he first came to power.

'Twas a mere 48 hours.

[threaded]

Dunno why you're all so happy about the 90 days, he managed to up it from 14 to 28 days, and IIRC it was only 3 days when he first came to power.

[datestamp]

Well it maybe Chico. But first I think you might do well to consider the tens of thousands of 'free' Brits, who were prepared to sacrifice their lives to protect our freedoms.

Very much so BobtheCrate.

Those that were welcomed off their landing craft by a hail of bullets on a hellhole French beach will be turning in their graves listening to Chico bleat on about locking up anybody and everybody because he finds them scary. We are doing them a grave disservice rolling over and waving the white flag to please the madman Blair.

"Our enemies are very powerful. They have many millions of soldiers. They have millions of prisoners, whom they in many cases use like slaves. They have rich lands which they have conquered, they have large, gifted populations in their grip. They have a theme of their own, which is the Nazi theme of tyranny and domination of a race in the shameful idolatry of a single man, a base man, elevated almost to the stature of a god by his demented and degraded worshippers. They have this idea of the suppression of the individual citizen, man and woman, to be a mere chattel of a State machine."

WINSTON CHURCHILL - Bradford, England, December 6, 1942

[Chico]

As usual Thicko Chico completely misses the point. Why are so afraid of being dead, Chico? Surely it will hasten your entry into paradise. And we won't have to listen to your meaningless blathering on CUK.

As someone famous said in another context:

"Give me liberty, or give me death".

As expected, the usual "intelligent" response from the self styled atheist tree hugger. TTFN

[sasguru]

As usual Thicko Chico completely misses the point. Why are so afraid of being dead, Chico? Surely it will hasten your entry into paradise. And we won't have to listen to your meaningless blathering on CUK.

As someone famous said in another context:

"Give me liberty, or give me death".

[BobTheCrate]

Well the tree huggers wont be so smug after they have been blown up by terrorists. Lets see you bleat on about civil liberties when you are dead!!

Isn't the greatest civil liberty – the liberty to live!!!

Well it maybe Chico. But first I think you might do well to consider the tens of thousands of 'free' Brits, who were prepared to sacrifice their lives to protect our freedoms.

Don't be so keen to give up those hard won freedoms. They cost a great deal.

[Lucifer Box]

Well the tree huggers wont be so smug after they have been blown up by terrorists. Lets see you bleat on about civil liberties when you are dead!!

Well I don't think worrying about that will keep me awake at night.

Here's a good factoid for you... you are 150 times more likely to win the lottery than to die in a terrorist attack in the UK, and you are 150 times more likely to be murdered than to win the lottery.

Simple then... don't buy a lottery ticket.

Chico, why are you such a big, tree hugging, blubbing crybaby that wants to go running off to the state for protection when the biggest risk by far you take in daily life is getting in your car? Are you scared of big, bad boogeymen terrorists? Do you fill your pants in terror when you see a sun-tanned man with a beard?

Get a sense of perspective. Remember, we live in a relative universe (shortly to be confirmed yet again: Science to ride gravitational waves)

[stackpole]

Well the tree huggers wont be so smug after they have been blown up by terrorists. Lets see you bleat on about civil liberties when you are dead!!

That is the sort of argument the likes of Saddam Hussein would use. It is totalitarian.

It doesn't make sense to continue taking away freedoms in order to fight for them.

Suppose I mischievously tipped you off to the police, Chico?

[Numptycorner]

I would have a problem with legislation like this if we were living in an Eastern European of Middle East Dictatorship. However whether you like to admit it or not England does not have much of a history of police abusing their powers on a wide scale (much like Eastern Germany kind of thing).

Sure some of you cry babies will be able to point out the odd case of police abusing their powers but no matter how you dress it up those cases will be the exception, not the norm.

And anyway, the sooner England becomes a police state the sooner we get rid of thugs and chavs off the street

Mailman

Google West Midlands Serious Crime Squad. Just one example of corruption in the police. I had a friend who was there in the police at that time, it beggars belief what they got up to (most of it unlawfull)

[AlfredJPruffock]

Well the tree huggers wont be so smug after they have been blown up by terrorists. Lets see you bleat on about civil liberties when you are dead!!

Perhaps you are relishing the prospects of attacks , that is truely sick, but then again you did youself say you are sick.

This bill would not have any impact whatsoever in stopping any terror attacks, and you damn well know it.

Rejoice Chico, this is a Landmark day for Democracy and Freedom.

We sent Blair homeward ...to think again

[Chico]

Well the tree huggers wont be so smug after they have been blown up by terrorists. Lets see you bleat on about civil liberties when you are dead!!

[stackpole]

Hear hear Z

The thicko majority of voters don't understand the nuances of this argument, which is how New Labour got away with their daft reforms.

[AlfredJPruffock]

AJP - have a look at http://www.blairwatch.co.uk

Not necessary a balanced view, but lots of fun !

Why Thanks DS

Had a great laugh with this site, I see my old friend Liam Fox is now branded as a traitor , at least by the Sun, for having the wisdom to vote against the Socialist Police State Legislation,good to see some Tory common sense rejecting this nonsense.

Heres the extract ... http://www.blairwatch.co.uk

Yes, The Sun has accused the majority of Parliament of being traitors, including:
Dr Liam Fox (Woodspring)
William Hague (Richmond (Yorks)
Boris Johnson (Henley)
Sir Malcolm Rifkind (Kensington & Chelsea)
Miss Ann Widdecombe (Maidstone & The Weald)

And if that wasn't enough, they also accuse:
David Davis (Haltemprice & Howden) and
David Cameron (Witney)

Seems like Tony wasn't the only person who lost the plot last night...

[zathras]

It's ironic that people, often hireditory peers, who were smeared as 'dinosaurs' and a bunch of 'senile privilidged old men' actually, whether by design or accident, exhibited considerably more sense and dedication to the principles of democracy than the political wannabees who will do anything to cling to power for just one more term....

And the reason for this is very simple. It is the one attribute that is both it's weakness and strength. Once appointed to the Upper House they cannot be removed. While they may ingratiate themselves to someone to get there, once there they owe their position to nobody. (even more so for hereditary peers) For that reason they can be honest about how they vote. This is not true for those societies governed by an elected or appointed upper house (such as the US). Before we throw out the hereditary peers we would do well to remember that they owe allegience to no political leader except governed by their own conscience. Incidentally Blair has appointed more peers than any of his predecessors, another lot of NL contributors were appointed last week