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Previously on "Did Barry the Light Worker (tm) just get played for the fool he is?"
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Originally posted by pzz76077 View PostIf I understand the question you are posing- you are speculating on the chances of peace in the Middle East while at the same time suggesting that the Israeli Presidents speech last night somehow was 'better' than the speech of the US President the previous week (erroneous for many reasons).
To have peace, you must first want peace and currently neither party to this dispute want peace as there is so much money, vested interests etc at stake that would be lost (directly and indirectly).
Having lived and worked in both Israel and The Middle East, one thing that struck me is how little each side know about each other and can only mange to make snide racist jokes and worse that have no basis in fact.
As ever the start of the journey to peace starts with education and understanding and my feeling is that both sides are a long way from the starting block currently.
Two free and independent states side by side is the only sustainable solution, but as ever the current mess has its foundations in British colonialism to blame for where it is now!
PZZ
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Originally posted by Mailman View PostA masterful speech, full of real hope and change from Bibi on the weekend. But more importantly, did Bibi just play Barry for the novice/fool he is?
Although, in all honesty, what real chance of peace in the middle east was there? As long as arabs cling to their hatred for the Jew there will never be peace.
As the next Vice President said during her campaigning with the old codger, its all well and good to have some nice speeches, but when it comes to actually doing something, then Barry aint your man.
Wonder if Barry's 25yo speech writer will take notice of some of the historically correct content from Bibi's speech? Naw, probably not, after all Barry is so scarily intelligent!
Mailman
To have peace, you must first want peace and currently neither party to this dispute want peace as there is so much money, vested interests etc at stake that would be lost (directly and indirectly).
Having lived and worked in both Israel and The Middle East, one thing that struck me is how little each side know about each other and can only mange to make snide racist jokes and worse that have no basis in fact.
As ever the start of the journey to peace starts with education and understanding and my feeling is that both sides are a long way from the starting block currently.
Two free and independent states side by side is the only sustainable solution, but as ever the current mess has its foundations in British colonialism to blame for where it is now!
PZZ
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Looks like he's gone.
Probably his daily half-hour internet outreach therapy has ended.
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Christ - you're sounding even loonier than normal. You stopped taking the medication?
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Originally posted by Mailman View PostOR conversely they could say "hold on, them Israelis want to live in peace with us...and we want to live in peace with them".
Once again, a pretty radical concept for you to digest and one I fear many on the left will fail to comprehend.
As long as Arabs cling to their hatred of the Jew, there wont be peace in the middle east.
I guess its true, them arabs never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity
Mailman
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Originally posted by Menelaus View PostHe's referring to the speech by Benjamin Netanyahu on the willingness of Israel to accept the existence of a state of Palestine on, y'know, the land that they stole from the Palestinians.
The catch is that the Israelis will only accept this IF the Palestinians agree to become demilitarised.
If I were living in Gaza or the West Bank now I'd be thinking (cynical head on):
"Hold on, the Israelis are prepared to let us exist but only if we've got no guns meaning that they can come in and shoot and bomb us with impunity? **** that."
Once again, a pretty radical concept for you to digest and one I fear many on the left will fail to comprehend.
As long as Arabs cling to their hatred of the Jew, there wont be peace in the middle east.
I guess its true, them arabs never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity
Mailman
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Originally posted by Mailman View PostWhy, you wanting to sit next to him?
I can understand why your response is so defensive Snawsy, your prophet just got shown up to be a boy by Bibi.
I know, you are probably smarting right now, hoping those stinky jews will get their comeuppance...but you will get over it with time
Mailman
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