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  • Menelaus
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    Originally posted by pzz76077 View Post
    17 trillion has been given out by various governments around the world (US Dollars).

    PZZ


    Would we need farmers any more??
    Surely this includes loan guarantees where the money is not disbursed by the bank?

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  • expat
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    It is the month of October and it is raining.

    The little French town is totally deserted. These are tough times, everybody is in debt, and everybody lives on credit. Suddenly, a rich tourist comes to town.

    He enters the town's only hotel, lays a 100 Euro note on the desk, and asks the manager if he can go upstairs to inspect the rooms before deciding which one to stay in for the night.

    The manager takes the 100 Euro note and quickly runs to pay his debt
    to the butcher. The butcher takes the 100 Euro note and, keeping aside 20 Euros for VAT, runs to pay his debt to the pig farmer. The pig farmer takes the 80 Euro that he gets and keeps 16 Euros for VAT, then runs to pay his debt to the feed merchant. The feed merchant takes the 64 Euros and, keeping 12.80 Euros for VAT, runs to pay his debt to the town’s prostitute that in these hard times, gave her services on credit.

    The prostitute is legit but IR35-caught, though not VAT registered yet, so she keeps aside 12.8% plus 11% for NICs and 20% for income tax, i.e. 20.39, so she runs to the hotel and gives the manager the 30.81 Euros that are left to pay for the rooms she rented when she brought her clients there. The manager then lays the 30.81 Euros on the desk.

    At that moment, the rich tourist comes downstairs after inspecting the rooms and with a scowl picks up the 30.81 Euros, saying that he did not mind the rooms, but the town is just too greedy and he doesn't understand what they spend it all on, and leaves town.

    No one earned anything. However, the whole town is now without debt,
    and looks to the future with a lot of optimism. But the rich tourist feels robbed and will never come back and spend any more money in the town. Isn't life wonderful!

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  • ace00
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    Originally posted by sweetandsour View Post
    So the result of this merry-go-round is that no value has been added and they might as well all stayed at home and not bothered?

    Sounds about right for France.
    And the hotel manager goes bankrupt. But he has to eat. So he gets some sausages on credit.......................................etc.. .....................

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  • sweetandsour
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    Originally posted by pzz76077 View Post
    It is the month of October and it is raining.

    The little French town is totally deserted. These are tough times, everybody is in debt, and everybody lives on credit. Suddenly, a rich tourist comes to town.

    He enters the town's only hotel, lays a 100 Euro note on the desk, and asks the manager if he can go upstairs to inspect the rooms before deciding which one to stay in for the night.

    The manager takes the 100 Euro note and quickly runs to pay his debt
    to the butcher. The butcher takes the 100 Euro note and runs to pay
    his debt to the pig farmer. The pig farmer takes the 100 Euro note
    and runs to pay his debt to the feed merchant. The feed merchant takes the 100 Euro note and runs to pay his debt to the town’s prostitute that in these hard times, gave her services on credit.

    The prostitute runs to the hotel and gives the manager the 100 Euro note to pay for the rooms she rented when she brought her clients there. The manager then lays the 100 Euro note back on the desk.

    At that moment, the rich tourist comes downstairs after inspecting the rooms and takes back his 100 Euro note, saying that he did not like any of the rooms, and leaves town.

    No one earned anything. However, the whole town is now without debt,
    and looks to the future with a lot of optimism. Isn't life wonderful!

    PZZ
    So the result of this merry-go-round is that no value has been added and they might as well all stayed at home and not bothered?

    Sounds about right for France.

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  • pzz76077
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    I guess that the rich tourist is......French.

    Anyone else care to speculate??

    PZZ

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  • BrilloPad
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    Originally posted by Troll View Post
    So nobody paid their taxes?
    The Rich Tourist is unlikely to pay anything.

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  • Troll
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    Originally posted by pzz76077 View Post
    No one earned anything. However, the whole town is now without debt,and looks to the future with a lot of optimism. Isn't life wonderful!PZZ
    So nobody paid their taxes?

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  • pzz76077
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    For some (hopefully may) 1 million would not be enough and they would want to embrace their entrepreneurial spirit to make more. this is human nature, so the others with a million would hope to live the whole of their life without running out of money while making the entrepreneurs richer.

    Oh wait a minute, thats how we got to where we are today!

    PZZ

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  • VectraMan
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    Originally posted by pzz76077 View Post
    Anyone spot a defect in this theory??
    Where would they keep all the money? What with there now being no banks.

    And of course if everybody had 1 million dollars, nobody would work, nobody would make anything, and money would be worthless as you couldn't do anything with it.

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  • pzz76077
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    17 trillion has been given out by various governments around the world (US Dollars).

    PZZ


    Would we need farmers any more??

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  • minestrone
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    Originally posted by pzz76077 View Post
    ... I had a mail from my militant cousin in Greece the other day that basically said...

    If all the money that has been used to bail out the banks was given to real people, then every living person in the world would have between 1 & 3 million dollars each. No one would need to starve anymore. There would be no need for governments and no need to pay tax.


    Anyone spot a defect in this theory??


    PZZ
    Yes, nobody would be a farmer anymore.

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  • BrilloPad
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    Originally posted by pzz76077 View Post
    ... I had a mail from my militant cousin in Greece the other day that basically said...

    If all the money that has been used to bail out the banks was given to real people, then every living person in the world would have between 1 & 3 million dollars each. No one would need to starve anymore. There would be no need for governments and no need to pay tax.


    Anyone spot a defect in this theory??


    PZZ
    Think we did this one before.

    1. Its not real money

    2. 6 billion * 1 million = 6000 trillion whichg is alot more than the bailout.

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  • pzz76077
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    As an bonus thought...

    ... I had a mail from my militant cousin in Greece the other day that basically said...

    If all the money that has been used to bail out the banks was given to real people, then every living person in the world would have between 1 & 3 million dollars each. No one would need to starve anymore. There would be no need for governments and no need to pay tax.


    Anyone spot a defect in this theory??


    PZZ

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  • BrilloPad
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  • pzz76077
    started a topic How credit works- why cant UK PLC do this??

    How credit works- why cant UK PLC do this??

    It is the month of October and it is raining.

    The little French town is totally deserted. These are tough times, everybody is in debt, and everybody lives on credit. Suddenly, a rich tourist comes to town.

    He enters the town's only hotel, lays a 100 Euro note on the desk, and asks the manager if he can go upstairs to inspect the rooms before deciding which one to stay in for the night.

    The manager takes the 100 Euro note and quickly runs to pay his debt
    to the butcher. The butcher takes the 100 Euro note and runs to pay
    his debt to the pig farmer. The pig farmer takes the 100 Euro note
    and runs to pay his debt to the feed merchant. The feed merchant takes the 100 Euro note and runs to pay his debt to the town’s prostitute that in these hard times, gave her services on credit.

    The prostitute runs to the hotel and gives the manager the 100 Euro note to pay for the rooms she rented when she brought her clients there. The manager then lays the 100 Euro note back on the desk.

    At that moment, the rich tourist comes downstairs after inspecting the rooms and takes back his 100 Euro note, saying that he did not like any of the rooms, and leaves town.

    No one earned anything. However, the whole town is now without debt,
    and looks to the future with a lot of optimism. Isn't life wonderful!

    PZZ

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