Reply to: Sports Fans

[snaw]

Trouble is, those managers have a set of players and a set of circumstances to deal with. In any team, there are all sorts of things going on that are never released to the press. Those two guys hate each others’ guts. One guy’s mum is ill. Another bloke’s suffering from a depression brought on by his own feelings of failure, and some other chap’s just quivering at the thought that he might some day have a bad game and let everyone down. All this happens in swings and roundabouts. One year, just avoiding relegation might be a hell of a success given the circumstances, and another year winning the championship might be nothing less than expected. Surely players and managers need to be judged on their longer term contribution?

There might also be a very competent player or coach who has simply stayed at one club for too long and needs to move on; that doesn’t make him a fool.

Totally appreciate that, but equally it doesn't make a knowledgeable fans opinion any less valid.

Some managers don't have a clue either. Many players can play, but know SFA about the game ...

[Mich the Tester]

Fair point.

What's wrong with expressing an opinion on something you love?

I may not be a pro, but I've played Association Football my whole life, I read about it every day, watch it live fairly regularly and would spend most nights watching it if available and my wife let me ...

I reckon I've got more of a clue than some managers who've got into the position based on the fact they used to play ...

And if you look at the best managers, generally speaking they were average players at best - if they played at all (Mourihno??)

Trouble is, those managers have a set of players and a set of circumstances to deal with. In any team, there are all sorts of things going on that are never released to the press. Those two guys hate each others’ guts. One guy’s mum is ill. Another bloke’s suffering from a depression brought on by his own feelings of failure, and some other chap’s just quivering at the thought that he might some day have a bad game and let everyone down. All this happens in swings and roundabouts. One year, just avoiding relegation might be a hell of a success given the circumstances, and another year winning the championship might be nothing less than expected. Surely players and managers need to be judged on their longer term contribution?

There might also be a very competent player or coach who has simply stayed at one club for too long and needs to move on; that doesn’t make him a fool.

[snaw]

Fair point.

What's wrong with expressing an opinion on something you love?

I may not be a pro, but I've played Association Football my whole life, I read about it every day, watch it live fairly regularly and would spend most nights watching it if available and my wife let me ...

I reckon I've got more of a clue than some managers who've got into the position based on the fact they used to play ...

And if you look at the best managers, generally speaking they were average players at best - if they played at all (Mourihno??)

[Mich the Tester]

I guess you could relate this to some of the your posts about the bad managers you've encountered.

Why do you think you know more about managment than experienced managers who've been managing in quite lofty positions for many years?

Everyone's got an opinion, and as long as it's not hurting anyone, I'm fine with people expressing it whether I agree with it or not...

I have quite a bit of management experience too.

Anyway, I’m not saying people shouldn’t voice an opinion. It’s just that too often I read stuff about people who think ‘<insert name of footy manager> should be sacked’ or ‘<player name> should be dropped’ and wonder whether fans really have the knowledge to make these statements.

[TheBigD]

I guess you could relate this to some of the your posts about the bad managers you've encountered.

Why do you think you know more about managment than experienced managers who've been managing in quite lofty positions for many years?

Everyone's got an opinion, and as long as it's not hurting anyone, I'm fine with people expressing it whether I agree with it or not...

[snaw]

I’m being diplomatic, simply recognizing that Association Football is a popular form of the football game that exists alongside other forms of football. I’m not in the business of insulting people on a Tuesday. That can wait until Wednesday.

Unless you're American then when talking about football, as opposed to rugby or league, then no one ever gets confused as to the subject matter ...

[Mich the Tester]

Eh?

Not sure why exactly, but just someone calling it by that name immediatley makes me suspicious at least of the person making the comment.

Why the verbose name?

I’m being diplomatic, simply recognizing that Association Football is a popular form of the football game that exists alongside other forms of football. I’m not in the business of insulting people on a Tuesday. That can wait until Wednesday.

[The Lone Gunman]

fanks for holding me back guys.

next time mate. I'll ave im.

You will ave him as a quivering mass on the floor in no time.................







He wont be able to get up for laughing for ages.

[EternalOptimist]

fanks for holding me back guys.

next time mate. I'll ave im.

[snaw]

Association Football

Eh?

Not sure why exactly, but just someone calling it by that name immediatley makes me suspicious at least of the person making the comment.

Why the verbose name?

[Mich the Tester]

trying to get out of it with yer fancy talk an big words eh?
well 'ave some of this

You'll have to hit harder than that.

[EternalOptimist]

Not necessarily. I could also be suggesting that the average footballer is of similar intelligence to the average football fan. They might even be smarter, seeing as they figured out that training hard for years and practising their skills instead of sitting about yapping about other people's efforts could make them unfathomably rich.

trying to get out of it with yer fancy talk an big words eh?
well 'ave some of this

[Mich the Tester]

hold me coat. someone better old me back, im gonna do im

I'm ready.

[Mich the Tester]

EO... Mich is calling yoo fick.

Not necessarily. I could also be suggesting that the average footballer is of similar intelligence to the average football fan. They might even be smarter, seeing as they figured out that training hard for years and practising their skills instead of sitting about yapping about other people's efforts could make them unfathomably rich.

[Drewster]

Where does it say you have to be able to do a thing before you can show someone else how to do it?
There are any number of examples of people who could not do a particular sport training others. Do you think Tiger Woods dad is a better golfer than Tiger?

Some fans have years of experience in the game and know just as much about the theory and tactics as do the pros.

WHS............ although lots of Footie Fans don't know tulip....