Reply to: 2032 before debt is back to normal

[AtW]

The big irony is that if UK joined eurozone in 1999 it would have been prevented from manipulating bank rates to get so deep in debt, which is precisely the reason why Brown did not want to get in - otherwise he'd lose his job long time ago.

[Menelaus]

WHS (x2).

We're fcuked. And not in a good way.

[ThomasSoerensen]

So it's all a big plan to bounce us into the €?

Do you think the UK is welcome to join the EUR now?
I doubt that.
The UK do not live up to the required measures of prudence and a sound economy that is required to join.

You are welcome to mail in the application form though

[AtW]

So it's all a big plan to bounce us into the €?

Euroland does not want to accept pounds now to take over the reckless debts UK as a whole took on.

[Menelaus]

So it's all a big plan to bounce us into the €?

[AlfredJPruffock]

I have been saying since October/November that the engineered economic collapse is planned to have three major phases:

(1) To crash the economy (done)
(2) To have governments borrow extraordinary amounts of money from the very banking and financial cartel that the same ‘money’ is being spent to ‘bail out’ (being done)
(3) To crash the economy still further when government options are exhausted and leave them with no way of responding (waiting to be done).

Then they step forward to 'save us' with a globally centralised banking dictatorship based on a World Central Bank.

Mad or on to something???

It all going pretty much to plan.

Stage a crises - then present the 'Solution'.

You missed the Iran war though.

[Mich the Tester]

Things aren't so bad. Nothing that a spot of looting, rioting, pestilence, disease, overthrow of the government and a total rebuild of society and the economy can't solve. By the time the process is complete our population will be smaller, younger and fitter and more into more productive activities such as hunting, agriculture and weaving. We should not pay back our debts to any countries that we owe money either. If they want it they can come over here and try to take it off us like in the old days. This is a faster solution than the prolonged misery favoured by Labour.

So we'll still be needing the battleships?

[TimberWolf]

Things aren't so bad. Nothing that a spot of looting, rioting, pestilence, disease, overthrow of the government and a total rebuild of society and the economy can't solve. By the time the process is complete our population will be smaller, younger and fitter and more into more productive activities such as hunting, agriculture and weaving. We should not pay back our debts to any countries that we owe money either. If they want it they can come over here and try to take it off us like in the old days. This is a faster solution than the prolonged misery favoured by Labour.

[Menelaus]

You are such a bunch of neer-do-wells - lets spend another 20 Billion - no hell make its 200 Billion on a new Doomsday Bomb - and Devil take the Hindermost !!!!

That wil be the Ulitimate Boom !

I guess its all just bad karma for Blairs War in Iriaq.

I'm risking some huuuuuuuuuugely bad karma here (ex-squaddie) but I'd suggest that one of the ways for us to become more settled in terms of public spending would be to eviscerate MoD, as follows:

Psychological

Stop lying to ourselves that we remain a world power.

Strategic

1. Leave NATO

2. Be a peace-keeping only force - no Afghanistan / Iraq deployments unless required as a part of UN forces (e.g., Sweden)

3. Scrap Trident and the Trident replacement. Sell the SSBN boats to the highest bidders.

4. Scrap HMS Prince of Wales and HMS Queen Elizabeth (two aircraft carriers currently committed to)

5. Scrap JSF (RN) and non-built Typhoon aircraft and A400M (RAF). Maintain current Typhoon squadron to end of life.

6. Sell Tornado aircraft to ... well, whoever wants them really.

Tactical

1. Have Royal Engineers building council houses / working with commercial building firms. Advantage of giving them real experience in the trades that the Army has provided them with; also generates income for the MoD.

2. Have Royal Signals working with BT and other commercial organisations (such as Iridium) to expand on their skill bases and be ready for resettlement at the end of their careers

3. Have Royal Logistic Corps vehicles and people offering delivery and logistic tracking services to large, blue-chip organisations thus providing resettlement experience and making them a self-funding business

4. Reduce cavalry (tank) regiments dramatically - mothball one regiment, sell the other regiments' tanks to the highest bidders.

5. Reduce infantry regiments dramatically - mothball on division, maintain one division at active readiness, maintain one division in training. Remove the rest and either sell or destroy their gear.

6. Have AGC people working in jobs in HR / payroll / accounting in commercial businesses - same logic as above.

7. Have Army Medical Services teams working in the NHS thus reducing by ~30,000 the current staff shortages in the NHS. Same logic as above.

8. Army Air Corps to be merged by Fleet Air Arm and RAF helicopter forces to provide Joint Rotary Wing Command - and no replacements for aircraft, frozen for another 10 years.

9. The Chinooks sitting at Boscombe Down that are unsafe to fly because Boeing installed new gear and wouldn't tell us how it worked? Ship the aircraft straight back to Boeing and place import levy on Boeing until they refund us for those aircraft or replace them with ones that work.

10. RM / Paras / SFSG (etc) to be retained in two forms: first, as a joint special forces (I hate that phrase) command who are deployed to lead offensive expeditionar warfare in the VERY FEW circumstances in which it is justified. Second, to be a training team for both internal students (i.e., Plod, TPG (G20, anyone?)) and externals (NATO countries, who would benefit from the "best in the world" forces)

...ahh, that feels better

Menelaus

[Signo_cypher]

Or as David Icke puts it...

I have been saying since October/November that the engineered economic collapse is planned to have three major phases:

(1) To crash the economy (done)
(2) To have governments borrow extraordinary amounts of money from the very banking and financial cartel that the same ‘money’ is being spent to ‘bail out’ (being done)
(3) To crash the economy still further when government options are exhausted and leave them with no way of responding (waiting to be done).

Then they step forward to 'save us' with a globally centralised banking dictatorship based on a World Central Bank.

Mad or on to something???

[AtW]

Hope the house price bubble was worth it.

This time it was different mate - all those "fundamentals" etc

[Mich the Tester]

I’d be better off trying to get fit or grow some vegetables or something… just had my mother on the phone asking if I’ve tried the job centre. x10

Good thinking Mum; plenty of vegetables at the job centre.

[gingerjedi]

"Decades of pain ahead to repair nation’s coffers

It will be not be until February 27, 2032

...Assuming nothing catastrophically expensive happens in the next 23 years, seriously we are fecked forever and nothing will ever be the same.

I’m starting to get the feeling that job hunting is a complete waste of effort, I’d be better off trying to get fit or grow some vegetables or something… just had my mother on the phone asking if I’ve tried the job centre. x10

[AlfredJPruffock]

You are such a bunch of neer-do-wells - lets spend another 20 Billion - no hell make its 200 Billion on a new Doomsday Bomb - and Devil take the Hindermost !!!!

That wil be the Ulitimate Boom !

I guess its all just bad karma for Blairs War in Iriaq.

[Cyberman]

Got to give Broon credit for one thing, he HAS ended boom and bust

True... he ended BOOM !!!