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  • lilelvis2000
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    Originally posted by Doggy Styles View Post
    How can you moan about the price of replica kits when:

    1. People still buy them
    2. It is a better way of raising money than a loan
    No substitute for stupidity is there? I wait until they're on clearance for £5...even at that I think about it.

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  • snaw
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    There are no SKA exclusive deals, I would not want to depend on a single customer (that said some non-core parts can be exclusive - but this is still competitive market).
    have

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by jkoder View Post
    Hmm, so does that mean my SKA exclusivity deal is no more?
    There are no SKA exclusive deals, I would not want to depend on a single customer (that said some non-core parts can be exclusive - but this is still competitive market).

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  • jkoder
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    That's another monopoly - it should never be possible to buy exclusives which are then used to drive prices up artificially by restricting demand.
    Hmm, so does that mean my SKA exclusivity deal is no more? Screw you dude.

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by gingerjedi View Post
    You can't blame players for demanding high wages as they didn't create the monster. Sky, the Premier League and the ludicrous TV money is at the heart of it but how did his come about? That's right the consumer was willing to pay
    That's another monopoly - it should never be possible to buy exclusives which are then used to drive prices up artificially by restricting demand.

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by Doggy Styles View Post
    Clubs have IP rights on their kit, they're entitled to do with it as they wish.
    They have a monopoly with fans, my SKA project is totally volunteer and I have to work hard and stay competitive, otherwise my customers will move away - this is not the case with football clubs who know that their fans can't just move away, so they exploit the monopolistic position.

    Of course if someone (fans) allows themselves to be abused like this then it's their own fault.

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  • gingerjedi
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    Originally posted by tim123 View Post
    But they aren't paid their fair share, they are paid all of it!

    tim
    Does anyone on here understand how a market works?

    You can't blame players for demanding high wages as they didn't create the monster. Sky, the Premier League and the ludicrous TV money is at the heart of it but how did his come about? That's right the consumer was willing to pay.

    If you have a Sky sports package it's your fault that Ronaldo can afford to smash up Ferrari's as if they were toys.

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  • Doggy Styles
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    People buy them because club has got a monopoly on that brand: how about any tshirt retailer can make such tshirts and sell them at a profit? The prices would fall down to £5 max.
    How about if anyone can use your SKA and make a profit on it?

    Or how about if my uncle had tits, he could be my aunt.

    Clubs have IP rights on their kit, they're entitled to do with it as they wish.

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  • tim123
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    Originally posted by gingerjedi View Post
    He earns more than that without kicking a ball.

    It's a market out there, why should Sky and the Premier League make millions and not pay the stars that make it all possible their fair share?

    HTH
    But they aren't paid their fair share, they are paid all of it!

    tim

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by Doggy Styles View Post
    1. People still buy them
    People buy them because club has got a monopoly on that brand: how about any tshirt retailer can make such tshirts and sell them at a profit? The prices would fall down to £5 max.

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  • Doggy Styles
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    How can you moan about the price of replica kits when:

    1. People still buy them
    2. It is a better way of raising money than a loan

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by lilelvis2000 View Post
    What really gets me going is the price of kits..£30 for a child's!!! WTF is it made outta!
    The cost of production is probably £0.10.

    Also probably £1 for legal costs of making the western buyer unaware of any dreadful labour conditions in 3rd world countries where these tshirts are made.

    Accountants - £1 to present numbers in such a way that selling tshirt at £30 looks like almost making a loss.

    HTH

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  • lilelvis2000
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    Whatever...I don't watch the "game". I got tired of the same four teams at the top each year and the little minnows entering for a year..then dropping out almost immediately. Its a joke.

    What really gets me going is the price of kits..£30 for a child's!!! WTF is it made outta! Obviously the FA thinks we're all stupid enough to pay for them...and guess what? a lot of people are!

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by sasguru View Post
    Provided no public money is being used by the clubs let them do what they want.
    Considering it is the banks like RBS, Northern Rock who will lose money if clubs go bust and the fact that those banks are owned by taxpayers now it seems reasonable that banks demand clubs to be on sound footing - cut salaries to pay back what they owe.

    The reality is that those ridiculous salaries of footballers in this country are all build on debt - like morgaged gate receipts for years to come. How many of those expensive players stay with club when it gets relegated?

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    I say let the market decide. If fans are stupid enough to pay enough money that the so called stars (I prefer the term jessies) can earn £100k per week then fine. More fool the fans and well done the "stars".

    Supply and demand. Works every time. I would also be in favour of short-selling the stars.
    The problem is that some clubs (like Leeds) borrowed money and nearly totally collapsed - it's like the same thing with banks really, regulation is necessary to at least ensure that clubs do not have debts - if fans are financing all this then it's fine, but the reality is that clubs have huge debts and it is the footballers who will move on when club dies are responsible for these debts.

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