Cheney fears Obama's Truth commission on Torture

[Mailman]

Hey MM, glad they let you out for a day every now and again. Keep taking the medicine, it's only for your own good ...

Yeah, left me bottle at home that day!

On a serious note...with Obama looking to increase America's presence in Afghanistan, and his authorising attacks in to Pakistan, whats the chances of him going after anyone in GW's team for war crimes?

I know...that would make some of you with empty lives happy, but unfortunately for you guys, summer dont shine in laalaa land!

Mailman

[expat]

...if there is one issue that will get Embalmer assassinated, this is it.

JFK was planning to rough up the establishment, and look what happened to him.

WHS

[PM-Junkie]

...if there is one issue that will get Embalmer assassinated, this is it.

JFK was planning to rough up the establishment, and look what happened to him.

[snaw]

Yawn...I wouldnt be surprised if Obama, with one eye towards his own mandatory retirement in a couple years time, plays this one for all its worth and doesnt actually accomplish a single prosecution.

After all, he wouldnt want to set something in stone that will get used against him by President Palin in four years would he?

Mailman

Hey MM, glad they let you out for a day every now and again. Keep taking the medicine, it's only for your own good ...

[Mailman]

Yawn...I wouldnt be surprised if Obama, with one eye towards his own mandatory retirement in a couple years time, plays this one for all its worth and doesnt actually accomplish a single prosecution.

After all, he wouldnt want to set something in stone that will get used against him by President Palin in four years would he?

Mailman

[AlfredJPruffock]

The full article can be read on the TImes Online http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle5992569.ece


War crimes have no statute of limitations and are among the most serious crimes of which one can be accused.


The threat, however subtle, is real. Eric Holder, the new attorney-general, while eschewing a formal investigation, has told Republicans “prosecutorial and investigative judgments must depend on the facts, and no one is above the law”.

The justice department is also sitting on an internal report into the calibre of the various torture memos drafted by Bush appointees in the Office of Legal Counsel. The report has apparently already found the memos beneath minimal legal credibility, which implies they were ordered up to make the law fit the already-made decision to torture various terror suspects.

But the big impending release may well be three memos from May 2005, detailing specific torture techniques authorised by Bush and Cheney for use against terror suspects. Newsweek described the yet to be released memos thus:

“One senior Obama official . . . said the memos were ‘ugly’ and could embarrass the CIA. Other officials predicted they would fuel demands for a ‘truth commission’ on torture.”



The documents detailed horrifying CIA practices that the Red Cross unequivocally called torture – shoving prisoners in tiny, air-tight coffins, waterboarding, beatings, sleep deprivation, stress positions: all the techniques we have now come to know almost by heart.

And torture is a war crime.

War crimes have no statute of limitations and are among the most serious crimes of which one can be accused.

This is what Cheney is desperate to avoid. It is unclear whether he will actually ever be prosecuted, but the facts of his record will wend their way inexorably into the sunlight. That means he could become a pariah.

Even though the CIA actively destroyed the videotapes of torture sessions, it could not destroy the legal and administrative record now available to the new administration.

So Cheney is reduced to asserting that what he did saved countless lives and averted many plots. He is reduced to asserting the same Manichean view of the world that gave us Guantanamo, Bagram and the Iraq war: fighting terrorism is “a tough mean, dirty, nasty business”, he told Polit-ico, an American political website. “These are evil people. And we’re not going to win this fight by turning the other cheek.”

But no one is urging that we turn the other cheek: they are simply saying the West has to obey the laws of war and the rule of law in its battle against jihadist terrorism.

By coming out so forcefully and so publicly so soon after he left office, Cheney is intent on asserting that the torture programme he set up was legal, moral and defensible.

Like many of Obama’s former foes, he may come to regret making that move in his own defence.