Someone tried to sell me a permie job

[Mich the Tester]

sorry off topic slightly - but why would a tester need to know java?

The xml and databases - ok will accept that a tester may need to go look see what is in there.

but java?

DOn't ask me. I see adverts for testers every day where they specify some version of some development tool. Aside from xml and sql it's usually irrelevant what brand of software you test; tell me what the application is supposed to do and I'll find out whether it does that, and whether it does nasty things you don't want it to do. If I'm selecting a test team I actually deliberately choose some testers who don't have experience with a particular package or language, because they can more easily stay objective and avoid taking things for granted. I guess the only reason why they're asking for java is tht HR are a bunch of numpties who need something to fill in the ISO9001 standard vacancy form.

[MPwannadecentincome]

sorry off topic slightly - but why would a tester need to know java?

The xml and databases - ok will accept that a tester may need to go look see what is in there.

but java?

[Mich the Tester]

Pah - plastic contractor. You should have a Ferrari in your garage like the rest of us.

What, one of those Ferraris that everyone's heard about but nobody's ever seen?

[Moscow Mule]

Yes. I have my own gym in the garage; something I would never have been able to afford as a permie.

Pah - plastic contractor. You should have a Ferrari in your garage like the rest of us.

[Mich the Tester]

Whats wrong with fruit juice and sultanas ?

They give me the tulips.

[Andy2]

Whats wrong with fruit juice and sultanas ?

[Mich the Tester]

You're not sporty then?

Yes. I have my own gym in the garage; something I would never have been able to afford as a permie.

[thelace]

You're not sporty then?

[DimPrawn]

You get paid in lentils and museli.

[original PM]

sounds like a bunch of tree hugging hippy crap!

[Mich the Tester]

Senior tester - Database - Java - XML - backend testen - Utrecht

BLA BLA BLA…

Requirements
* Knowledge of databases, Java and XML
* Experience with automated testing
* An academic level (preferably Mathematics, Physics or Computer Science)
* Minimum 3 years experience as Quality/Test Engineer with backend testing
* Experience with GUI test tools such as Winrunner, QF-Test, or open source tools such as TPTP AGR
* Knowledge of structured testing, automated testing and functional test techniques such as TestFrame®, Tmap®, TMM or TPI
* Knowledge of Web technology
* Good knowledge of Dutch and English both written and spoken
* Experience with Linux and Microsoft Windows

What do you get?
Flexible working hours and a salary matching your knowledge and experience from €2500-€5000 gross a month. They offer a bonus- scheme depending on the company profit. They pay for your travel costs, pension and net expenses €55 a month. They all eat lunch together and have fruit, juices, cup a soup and sultana’s to take whenever you want. On top of that they offer the best coffee in the world!
You will get a one-year contract with 1-month trail and 1 month notice. If you are sporty you can go to the gym around the corner for €10 a month.


What is this about? in return for my work I get fruit, juice, sultanas and powdered soup together with a bunch of geeks and the opportunity to spend my crap salary in the gym around the corner? Since when has ‘the right to spend your money in the shop of your own choice’ been an attractive reason to work for someone?