Reply to: F1 stupid rule change

[centurian]

And after all that, they've changed their mind

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/7955790.stm

[Pickle2]

In fairness to the F1 bods, the rule change has got us all talking about the sport and anticipating the new season. So maybe they arent as daft as we think!

[chrisl]

We might get a few fun "tulip or bust" Kamakazee moves on the last couple of laps if 1st and 2nd are close. Nowt to lose if 2nd place is worth nothing!

Lol yeah exactly, get a few wins under your belt and then spend the rest of the season crashing into your next revel to stop them getting any wins and anywhere near you in the championship race.
Sorted!

[Pickle2]

We might get a few fun "tulip or bust" Kamakazee moves on the last couple of laps if 1st and 2nd are close. Nowt to lose if 2nd place is worth nothing!

[Archangel]

As you know full well (but are baiting Centurian) that's a meaningless argument as, if the new rules had been in effect last season, each race may well have been different.

Not only that, but each race may well have been different, had a different result, and had a different effect. something

[TykeMerc]

As I said, and you agree, he would have won.

As you know full well (but are baiting Centurian) that's a meaningless argument as, if the new rules had been in effect last season, each race may well have been different.

[BrollyBonce]

The winning team should be calculated on points thus:

Total chest size of models who give out free fags
+
Thousands of packets of fags given out
+
100 * number of drivers killed
+
25 * number of drivers scarred by burns for life
+
15 * number of pit crew run down or set on fire
+
10 * number of fans killed or hospitalised by cars entering the crowd
+
5 * number of driver injuries
+
5 * number of car fires
+
number of crashes involved in
-
number of litres of fuel burned.

That way it will be interesting, give the fans what they want and yet help save the planet.


Next.

[minestrone]

Massa's extra victory

As I said, and you agree, he would have won.

[centurian]

He would have lost last year.

As I pointed out earlier - that's not certain.

Firstly, Massa's extra victory was one that was handed to him by the Stewards - a thoroughly undeserved win that belonged to either Hamilton or Raikonnen - the latter crashing out.

It was a harsh penalty at the time, but under the new rules race victories are far more valuable so the penalty would have been even more extreme. I wonder if the stewards would have found another way to penalise him (grid penalty).


Secondly, if Hamilton absolutely had to get another win, maybe they would have pushed harder for one when they had previously played the points game (Singapore etc.).


The point being (as I made earlier) is that you can't replay the same game with different rules.

[Guinness_Cat]

He would have lost last year.

Nope - he would have driven to win rather than for points.

He's naturally an aggressive driver anyway.

[minestrone]

If these rules were in place last year Lewis would have won far sooner.

He's not one for 'racing for points' but has had to do it up till now.

Shame his car looks a bit under average this year - gives button a chance...

He would have lost last year.

[Guinness_Cat]

Hamilton would have been runner up under the old rules, and rightly so.

If these rules were in place last year Lewis would have won far sooner.

He's not one for 'racing for points' but has had to do it up till now.

Shame his car looks a bit under average this year - gives button a chance...

[centurian]

They only changed the points system in the first place to combat the brilliance/dominance of Schumacher.

Hamilton would have been runner up under the old rules, and rightly so.

That's impossible to say - because if the rules were different, then the teams would have reacted differently.

Hamilton and McLaren did what they needed to win the championship. As it happened, they played it too safe and nearly lost it.

If Hamilton had needed to finish 3rd in the final race, then McLaren would have played a different strategy. Maybe it would have worked, maybe not. We'll never know...


You can't replay the game using different rules - unless those playing the game have no idea what the rules are in the first place?

[Bagpuss]

They only changed the points system in the first place to combat the brilliance/dominance of Schumacher.

Hamilton would have been runner up under the old rules, and rightly so.

[minestrone]

Are non-winning driver championship places decided on race wins too? e.g. for a driver that does not win the championship, does a single race win put him higher up the leader board than a zillion second place finishes by another driver?

I think so.