Reply to: Property Developers are not desperate

[tim123]

They are only valid for a limited period of six months because of the survey limitation although the EPC is valid for 12 months.

Which is the usual over egging that HMG does. Other countries have made them valid for 5 years.

The argument is that "something might change in that period" but that's ridiculous. Any changes that the owner makes are likely to make the property better, not worse.


tim

[Cyberman]

How long does a HIP last? If its a few years might be worth getting one now while its is cheap?

Though I guess it might get cheaper.....

They are only valid for a limited period of six months because of the survey limitation although the EPC is valid for 12 months. Wait until after the next election, then no need to worry !!

[BrilloPad]

And there is also competition in the market.

they were told that they could charge 200 quid a time.

It seems that in the current market 80 is good and 50 not unusual.

tim

How long does a HIP last? If its a few years might be worth getting one now while its is cheap?

Though I guess it might get cheaper.....

[tim123]

Yes, and this was actively encourage by HMG who thought that they would make a killing out of homeowners via HIPS. These people were very naive though, because HIPS is a tax and taxes can be abolished, as it will be !!

And there is also competition in the market.

they were told that they could charge 200 quid a time.

It seems that in the current market 80 is good and 50 not unusual.

tim

[Cyberman]

As I recall, there were quite a few parasitic companies offering training for HIPS with the promise of a good income to those who invested in it.

To the tune of 5K a pop if I remember correctly, which for many was quite a wodge to shell out.

Yes, and this was actively encourage by HMG who thought that they would make a killing out of homeowners via HIPS. These people were very naive though, because HIPS is a tax and taxes can be abolished, as it will be !!

[Sysman]

I feel sorry for the thousands who spent good money training to be HIPS inspectors only to see the market crash before their certificates landed on the doormat.

As I recall, there were quite a few parasitic companies offering training for HIPS with the promise of a good income to those who invested in it.

To the tune of 5K a pop if I remember correctly, which for many was quite a wodge to shell out.

[expat]

.... but HIPS are effectively a stealth tax on homeowners, so HMG should have paid for the training IMO.

With whose money?

[Cyberman]

I think that's most unfair

They took a risk and paid to be re-trained. It's not their fault that some people think that it's a non-job

tim

.... but HIPS are effectively a stealth tax on homeowners, so HMG should have paid for the training IMO.

[expat]

I think that's most unfair

They took a risk and paid to be re-trained. It's not their fault that some people think that it's a non-job

tim

I suppose that's true. It is not always given to everyone, least of all me, to be able to make a living out of doing things that are visibly useful.

[tim123]

I can't say I feel all that sorry for people who, rather than do useful work, just thought they had found a gravy train parasiting on the backs of others.
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I think that's most unfair

They took a risk and paid to be re-trained. It's not their fault that some people think that it's a non-job

tim

[expat]

I feel sorry for the thousands who spent good money training to be HIPS inspectors only to see the market crash before their certificates landed on the doormat.

I can't say I feel all that sorry for people who, rather than do useful work, just thought they had found a gravy train parasiting on the backs of others.

I feel the same way about BTL landlords, politicians who get voted out, and quite a few IT contractors.

[gingerjedi]

I feel sorry for the thousands who spent good money training to be HIPS inspectors only to see the market crash before their certificates landed on the doormat.

[Cyberman]

Yes, it's a Tory election promise. HIPS have to go because they have a totally negative effect on the market, and nobody reads them anyway.

[OwlHoot]

That reminds me ...... Only 18 months before HIPS are abolished ..... !!!!!!

It won't happen, even if the Tories win. HIPS were an EU initiative (albeit gold-plated well beyond the energy certificate the EU had proposed), and Cameroon is a raving Europhiliac.

[Platypus]

That reminds me ...... Only 18 months before HIPS are abolished ..... !!!!!!

Please explain - or shall I guess that this is a Tory election promise?

TIA.