Reply to: 5 grand a year better off by separating !!

[Churchill]

Nothing new.

Some friends of mine did this about 5 years ago after he lost his job. He went back to his mum's while GF claimed benefit and manged to keep their home. This lasted about 6 months until he got another job, when they got back togeather again. Both of them are now working, with the oldest child just starting uni.

Not saying this is right but they were better off financially by doing this.

I was a working single mum for a while and although I thought I had a good job, (permie BA with Company Car) I was no better off then others who were claiming benefit at the end of the month - Does make you wonder!

You were a BA with a company car but can't spell?

Oh FFS!

[Addanc]

I would stop reading the Daily Mail if I were you.

You run the risk that that paper will turn you into a one-dimensional little-Englander obsessed with only how the Labour party have ruined the country and only the Conservatives can save it, the importance of keeping an independent currency out of the hands of the Europeans, and the value of your house.

I see we have a Guardian/Observer pseudo intellectual.

[gingerjedi]

What's wrong with it is that it encourages people to break up perfectly good families for financial reasons, and also not to marry, when commonsense tells us that a more stable society depends on stable families. Five grand is hardly a small annual sum that people will ignore !! Unfortunately, this is just one example of the consequences of the perverse policies of Gordon Brown.

I used to know someone who did this when the Tories were last in power, the guy that did it was a tight arse staunch right wing tulipbag who put personal gain before his own family.

Nothing new and certainly not one of Gordon’s ideas.

[tim123]

One reason not to be taken in by the Tory claim they would have avoided the credit crunch, is because if anything they would have de regulated even more. In fact Dave Cameron says exactly this in his 2007 speech to the Tory faithful:


Daves Speech

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There's no connection here at all.

The Credit Crunch was caused entirely by Banks lending more money than the economy could manage.

Changing a few business rules about filling in forms would have had no effect on this

tim

[Cyberman]

Well, any other fiddling with the system will always eventually lead to similar disparities.

Any fiddling that discourages single parent families might actually be good for the country in the long-term.

[Purple Dalek]

Poor logic Expat. Did I say stop paying benefits to single parent families ? Ummmm.....

Well, any other fiddling with the system will always eventually lead to similar disparities.

[Cyberman]

So not paying any benefits to single-parent families will fix that? No, it will just crush the least fortunate, for a vague possibility of a tiny tax cut for you.

You disgusting piece of trash (tm)

Poor logic Expat. Did I say stop paying benefits to single parent families ? Ummmm.....

[expat]

What's wrong with it is that it encourages people to break up perfectly good families for financial reasons, and also not to marry, when commonsense tells us that a more stable society depends on stable families. Five grand is hardly a small annual sum that people will ignore !! Unfortunately, this is just one example of the consequences of the perverse policies of Gordon Brown.

So not paying any benefits to single-parent families will fix that? No, it will just crush the least fortunate, for a vague possibility of a tiny tax cut for you.

You disgusting piece of trash (tm)

[dang65]

What's wrong with it is that it encourages people to break up perfectly good families for financial reasons, and also not to marry, when commonsense tells us that a more stable society depends on stable families.

submit to an archaic religious tradition and legal contract which removes individual freedom and often causes years of misery and emotional suffering

[Purple Dalek]

You really shouldn't knock it until you've tried it.

Working in the black economy has many advantages. One thing that is good is that wife can get a place in the country with the kids, which is good for them, better schools, lots of fresh air, plenty to see and do, and father gets a flat in town, so he doesn't need to commute too far. If they go out on the tiles and have a little too much then they don't need to get a taxi, and he gets a place in the country to relax at the weekends.

There are also groups who live a lifestyle called 'polyamory'. Wives live of the various rail lines, dads live in different parts of town. They go round each others gaff for a party each weekend.

Tell you, you lot miss out on such a lot working for the tax man.

[Cyberman]

One reason not to be taken in by the Tory claim they would have avoided the credit crunch, is because if anything they would have de regulated even more. In fact Dave Cameron says exactly this in his 2007 speech to the Tory faithful:


Daves Speech

However it is also true that the Conservatives have been banging on for some time now that it's better to help married couples (presumably at the expense of single people). So at least we have some real idea of how differently the Tories will run things.
There's also mention in the speech of putting private companies in charge of the benefit payment system. Which could well be good news for the contractor market!!! Boomed!

The Tories are referring to deregulation businesses by reducing red tape, which is absolutely necessary to give a boost to free enterprise after all of the additional burdens applied in the past 11 years. They are not referring to deregulating banks in the disastrous way that Brown did by splitting the FSA and the BofE.

[MrMark]

One reason not to be taken in by the Tory claim they would have avoided the credit crunch, is because if anything they would have de regulated even more. In fact Dave Cameron says exactly this in his 2007 speech to the Tory faithful:

And I know that business wants to hear from the Conservative Party how we will reduce regulation and reduce taxation to give them more freedom in this new world.

Daves Speech

However it is also true that the Conservatives have been banging on for some time now that it's better to help married couples (presumably at the expense of single people). So at least we have some real idea of how differently the Tories will run things.
There's also mention in the speech of putting private companies in charge of the benefit payment system. Which could well be good news for the contractor market!!! Boomed!

[Cyberman]

Give us a break. A single parent with a low income gets help. OK so far in the minds of all civilised people. A couple living together, who can afford to look after their family, do not get help to do so. seems normal to me.

Conclusion: If a single parent becomes part of a sufficiently wealthy family, benefits will cease.

Now, the problem that you have with that is?

(Aside from the fact that you would not understand the concept of declaring a change in circumstances. As they say, a thief thinks that everybody steals).

What's wrong with it is that it encourages people to break up perfectly good families for financial reasons, and also not to marry, when commonsense tells us that a more stable society depends on stable families. Five grand is hardly a small annual sum that people will ignore !! Unfortunately, this is just one example of the consequences of the perverse policies of Gordon Brown.

[expat]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ide-split.html


So, almost 5 grand a year better off by separating. Yet more failure of marriages and families encouraged by New Lie's perverse policies.

Give us a break. A single parent with a low income gets help. OK so far in the minds of all civilised people. A couple living together, who can afford to look after their family, do not get help to do so. seems normal to me.

Conclusion: If a single parent becomes part of a sufficiently wealthy family, benefits will cease.

Now, the problem that you have with that is?

(Aside from the fact that you would not understand the concept of declaring a change in circumstances. As they say, a thief thinks that everybody steals).

[OwlHoot]

I would stop reading the Daily Mail if I were you.

You run the risk that that paper will turn you into a one-dimensional little-Englander obsessed with only how the Labour party have ruined the country and only the Conservatives can save it, the importance of keeping an independent currency out of the hands of the Europeans, and the value of your house.

You make that sound like a bad thing