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Previously on "Christmas Divisive Prison Sentence Thread"

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by Peoplesoft bloke View Post
    I dunno how it works, but it seems to me that:

    The doctor didn't manage to do much except fail totally, failed to kill anyone, failed to kill himself (even his mate managed to die) - all he's really done is cost money and prevented us all from driving up to airport buildings. In the past he appears to have done some good in his life, treating sick people. He will be so old when he gets out that most of his normal family life years will have passed without him - fair enough he's a would-be murderer.

    The scrote appears to have done nothing but nasty selfish stuff all his life (he was under an ASBO). He has never owned up, nor shown any remorse. Scrote is younger and although nearly 40 before eligible for consideration of parole, could get some kind of life going outside.

    They both deserved long terms but for once I think the judges got these about right.
    I think the intention is the critical thing. I've never understood why attempted murder might attract a lesser sentence than murder. What would be the point: to deter success rather than intent?

    Mass murder (actual or attempted) seems different to me, but there we are.

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  • Bagpuss
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    Found him, uncanny eh?

    http://www.wallpaperbase.com/wallpap...cken_run_5.jpg

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  • Peoplesoft bloke
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    Originally posted by Bagpuss View Post
    He's like a better looking version of Wayne Rooney.

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  • Peoplesoft bloke
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    I dunno how it works, but it seems to me that:

    The doctor didn't manage to do much except fail totally, failed to kill anyone, failed to kill himself (even his mate managed to die) - all he's really done is cost money and prevented us all from driving up to airport buildings. In the past he appears to have done some good in his life, treating sick people. He will be so old when he gets out that most of his normal family life years will have passed without him - fair enough he's a would-be murderer.

    The scrote appears to have done nothing but nasty selfish stuff all his life (he was under an ASBO). He has never owned up, nor shown any remorse. Scrote is younger and although nearly 40 before eligible for consideration of parole, could get some kind of life going outside.

    They both deserved long terms but for once I think the judges got these about right.

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by Bagpuss View Post
    It does look as if his nose and ears have been stuck on Mr Potato Head style.

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  • Bagpuss
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    Is it me or was this guy made by Aardman animations?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph...0_1207058c.jpg



    http://www.fordingsbarn.co.uk/photos3/gromit.png

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by Peoplesoft bloke View Post
    More than 10 years different? 10 years is a blinkin long time especially inside.
    I'd say it's worth more than an extra 45%.

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  • Peoplesoft bloke
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    I suppose the terrorist was lucky (as were we) that him and his mate were so utterly hopeless at it - if he'd managed it, he'd be dead or getting a longer sentence.

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  • Peoplesoft bloke
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    I think there's a big difference between an armed teenage thug who murders someone, and a terrorist planning to cause multiple deaths through multiple explosions. It's a matter of judgement, I suppose - they feel very different.
    More than 10 years different? 10 years is a blinkin long time especially inside.

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by Peoplesoft bloke View Post
    Why?
    I think there's a big difference between an armed teenage thug who murders someone, and a terrorist planning to cause multiple deaths through multiple explosions. It's a matter of judgement, I suppose - they feel very different.

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  • Peoplesoft bloke
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    Well, we've not had one of these for a while, so as I'm on the 'Hot-and-cold-running-telly-in-every-cell-and-send-the-poor-misunderstood-loves-on-an-adventure-holiday' wing, it's my turn to start one.

    The 16 year old who killed the 11 year old lad in Liverpool receives a minimum tariff of 22 years

    The doctor who plotted bomb attacks in Glasgow and London receives a minimum tariff of 32 years.

    Now, they're bothe substantial stretches. But I would expect the differential between them to be greater.
    Why?

    BTW I am against the death penalty but I wavered a bit over that youth in Liverpool - I mean seriously, what's he ever going to contribute?

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  • BrilloPad
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    Well, we've not had one of these for a while, so as I'm on the 'Hot-and-cold-running-telly-in-every-cell-and-send-the-poor-misunderstood-loves-on-an-adventure-holiday' wing, it's my turn to start one.

    The 16 year old who killed the 11 year old lad in Liverpool receives a minimum tariff of 22 years

    The doctor who plotted bomb attacks in Glasgow and London receives a minimum tariff of 32 years.

    Now, they're bothe substantial stretches. But I would expect the differential between them to be greater.
    One to be 500 and one a 1000?

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  • Old Greg
    started a topic Christmas Divisive Prison Sentence Thread

    Christmas Divisive Prison Sentence Thread

    Well, we've not had one of these for a while, so as I'm on the 'Hot-and-cold-running-telly-in-every-cell-and-send-the-poor-misunderstood-loves-on-an-adventure-holiday' wing, it's my turn to start one.

    The 16 year old who killed the 11 year old lad in Liverpool receives a minimum tariff of 22 years

    The doctor who plotted bomb attacks in Glasgow and London receives a minimum tariff of 32 years.

    Now, they're bothe substantial stretches. But I would expect the differential between them to be greater.

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