Reply to: Panic in the Civil Service - Government considering "Amazing ideas"

[OwlHoot]

How about this theory, which takes into account the bit about The Civil Service payroll being suspended.

The Civil Service, or at least large chunks of them (and NHS maybe?) are all given jobs as contractors. Thus the real purpose of IR35 is revealed. Haven't you always wondered about that Friday to Monday bit? It would certainly apply in this case.

This would allow the transfer of the long term Civil Service pension liability elsewhere, or at least freeze its growth.

Wanna take bets on Accenture becoming the largest umbrella company in the UK?

As a final bit of poetic justice, Dawn Primarolo will realize that they used her as a pawn, knowing her hatred of contractors, to implement IR35 when all along the intended victims were her precious Civil Service and NHS.

Yes that could be it!

Oh boy, no wonder there are D notices flying around like confetti (if the mole is to be believed)

[BrilloPad]

Not as long as they get elected. Well, Brown hasn't been elected to high office, but that will come, I presume.

I reckon a Feb election : before the economy gets REALLY bad.

[expat]

2 million marched against the Iraq war.

what makes you think governments care what people think?

Not as long as they get elected. Well, Brown hasn't been elected to high office, but that will come, I presume.

[BrilloPad]

Maybe enough people will come to London and force General Elections.

2 million marched against the Iraq war.

what makes you think governments care what people think?

[AlfredJPruffock]

Your idea has legs, truly has. Yes, I can see it happening.

I think there will be panic - given the Daleks will have perfected the Reality Bomb by nexy year its safe to say that - whoops - now Ive let the cat out the bag.

Crumbs ...

[Purple Dalek]

How about this theory, which takes into account the bit about The Civil Service payroll being suspended.

The Civil Service, or at least large chunks of them (and NHS maybe?) are all given jobs as contractors. Thus the real purpose of IR35 is revealed. Haven't you always wondered about that Friday to Monday bit? It would certainly apply in this case.

This would allow the transfer of the long term Civil Service pension liability elsewhere, or at least freeze its growth.

Wanna take bets on Accenture becoming the largest umbrella company in the UK?

As a final bit of poetic justice, Dawn Primarolo will realize that they used her as a pawn, knowing her hatred of contractors, to implement IR35 when all along the intended victims were her precious Civil Service and NHS.

Your idea has legs, truly has. Yes, I can see it happening.

[Sysman]

The real purpose of IR35 revealed - pure speculation at this point

another comment on Guido's blog from a Civil Service mole .. There is about to be the most terrible bust up when The Civil Service payroll is suspended for three months!

Have you not wondered about Darling's glum face, Howell's comments? The signs are there. I'm not worried about leaking, I'll be out on my ear soon enough. Lastly, the ideas to tackle this are AMAZING!

December 17, 2008 1:13 PM

I'm sure this guy(ess) is genuine. There's something about the terse matter-of-fact style.

That parting shot sounds very ominous to me. The most likely idea must be an Argentina-style nationalization of personal savings. <snip>

How about this theory, which takes into account the bit about The Civil Service payroll being suspended.

The Civil Service, or at least large chunks of them (and NHS maybe?) are all given jobs as contractors. Thus the real purpose of IR35 is revealed. Haven't you always wondered about that Friday to Monday bit? It would certainly apply in this case.

This would allow the transfer of the long term Civil Service pension liability elsewhere, or at least freeze its growth.

Wanna take bets on Accenture becoming the largest umbrella company in the UK?

As a final bit of poetic justice, Dawn Primarolo will realize that they used her as a pawn, knowing her hatred of contractors, to implement IR35 when all along the intended victims were her precious Civil Service and NHS.

[AtW]

I didn't say that and I don't blame anyone, but if enough people do it, it will make things worse.

Maybe enough people will come to London and force General Elections.

[AtW]

Gordon’s five economic tests for joining the euro;
1. Are business cycles and economic structures compatible so that we and others could live comfortably with euro interest rates on a permanent basis?
Yes, we’re all f**ked at the same time now.

2. If problems emerge is there sufficient flexibility to deal with them?
Yes, if you think massive taxpayer bailouts for f**ked banks are a sign of flexibility.

3. Would joining EMU create better conditions for firms making long-term decisions to invest in Britain?
Yes, it can’t be worse than now.
4. What impact would entry into EMU have on the competitive position of the UK's financial services industry, particularly the City's wholesale markets?
Erm, I think the City’s competitive position is rapidly becoming somewhat irrelevant.

5. In summary, will joining EMU promote higher growth, stability and a lasting increase in jobs?
See answer to test 3.

I'll make you my advisor to the Treasure (if or when I take over it).

[BrilloPad]

I know a few good banks in iceland. Was it Bumfluff who recommended Icesave?

[OwlHoot]

This is the best consiracy theory on this board since the days of the 11/9 bombings

*shrug* Take it or leave it.

If you don't think the mole is genuine then yes, fair enough, it's all a big giggle. Otherwise, can I remind you, they word they use for the ideas being considered is "AMAZING".

But time will tell, and if the worse happens don't say you weren't warned.

BTW If anyone is relying on an inheritance in due course from their aged Ps it would probably be realistic now to lower their expectations, most likely to zero.

[Bagpuss]

another comment on Guido's blog from a Civil Service mole ..



I'm sure this guy(ess) is genuine. There's something about the terse matter-of-fact style.

That parting shot sounds very ominous to me. The most likely idea must be an Argentina-style nationalization of personal savings. So if you have any significant savings in UK institutions, I'd think very carefully about shifting it somewhere safe before McSnotty steals it all. Seriously ...

This is the best consiracy theory on this board since the days of the 11/9 bombings

[Peoplesoft bloke]

It is wrong to put your money where it can't be touched. All your savings are belong to us.

I didn't say that and I don't blame anyone, but if enough people do it, it will make things worse.

[expat]

Nice work, if enough people do the same we'll really be shafted.

It is wrong to put your money where it can't be touched. All your savings are belong to us.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

Made an attempt to get an International LLoyds TSB account based in the Channel Islands, need passport number so I will probably do that tonight.

I wil make sure I am not getting shafted on any commision as well.

I will feel much safer knowing that it is in Euro and out of the country.

Nice work, if enough people do the same we'll really be shafted.