Reply to: What's Brown planning?

[OwlHoot]

Expect gloves to come off after election win. ..

It'll be a race between which come off first, the gloves or the wheels

[NetwkSupport]

I heard that on Radio 4 this morning. "Intended to stop illegal immigrants"...yeah and anti terror laws were intended to stop terrorists, but were used to halt capitalist funds transfers in and out of iceland, to muscle a septegenarian out of the labour party conference, to raid an opposition cabinet member's HOC office.... state and it is starting to get scary.

Browns got his own little secret police force now, like the russian secret police. power to pretty much do anything they want.

[Pickle2]

Indeed it's like 1992 all over again.

1929

[expat]

I think he will do anything necessary to win the next election. And at the moment he seems well on track.

Expect gloves to come off after election win. This New Labour idea of not soaking the rich has been giving him ulcers for 11 years.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

What is Brown planning?That's what I thought. P1ss money up the wall today and feck tomorrow. Which appeals to the masses.

Indeed it's like 1992 all over again.

[Doggy Styles]

What is Brown planning?

I think he will do anything necessary to win the next election. And at the moment he seems well on track.

That's what I thought. P1ss money up the wall today and feck tomorrow. Which appeals to the masses.

[Doggy Styles]

I'd guess more pension changes. Abolition of 25% tax-free lump sum for a start. Possibly retrospective.

If my retired dad dies, will they come after me for it?

[expat]

I'd guess more pension changes. Abolition of 25% tax-free lump sum for a start. Possibly retrospective.

[ace00]

Contractor Windfall Tax (CWT)
To be applied retrospectively (see car tax), at 50% (half each, to be fair).

[TimberWolf]

One thing he's planning is for the Police to have the power to demand ID without any reason and detain you if you can't provide it.

What happens when they discover that you are an alien?

[expat]

One thing he's planning is for the Police to have the power to demand ID without any reason and detain you if you can't provide it.

Check. When some people have ID cards, it stands to reason that those who choose not to carry them must expect the identity checks that are simplified by the card to take longer in their case.

[Ruprect]

One thing he's planning is for the Police to have the power to demand ID without any reason and detain you if you can't provide it.

I heard that on Radio 4 this morning. "Intended to stop illegal immigrants"...yeah and anti terror laws were intended to stop terrorists, but were used to halt capitalist funds transfers in and out of iceland, to muscle a septegenarian out of the labour party conference, to raid an opposition cabinet member's HOC office.... state and it is starting to get scary.

[expat]

Got a link?

I think he will do anything necessary to win the next election. And at the moment he seems well on track.

Link for "fairness", Timesonline etc.
For Queen's speech, all over the place.
For "retrospective" road tax, I remember it clearly: Google for it if you want, or I will if I have to.

The rest is my speculation. What do you think?

[Peoplesoft bloke]

One thing he's planning is for the Police to have the power to demand ID without any reason and detain you if you can't provide it.

[BrilloPad]

Brown said recently,
"So as government takes action, we expect people to play their part in return, with clear consequences for those who do not."
This has a slight echo of the minister saying that applying higher road tax to old cars was not retrospective, because "it has been clear for ten years what direction we were moving in".
-- that means, you do what we want, whether it is the law or not. If you don't co-operate, we will make the law later and apply it to you.

Now in the Queen's speech: lots of proposed bills dropped.

OK, he is clearly freeing up legislative time over the next year, to be able to do some really big moves to get what he wants.

Banks won't lend even when state-owned? National Bank, then. His constituency can't afford to buy houses? Then nationalise the housing stock? A fair society will need fair taxes: that means a LOT higher for those making over 30k. Maybe some new taxes? Any other suggestions?

Got a link?

I think he will do anything necessary to win the next election. And at the moment he seems well on track.