Reply to: comrade Brown bankrupting Britains

[Mich the Tester]

But why not just categorise them as Scots stealing from the English?

Just keeping up the senseless jingoism for the hell of it.

[expat]

Ever heard of the Border reivers? They were a bunch of freelance socialist cattle herders who quietly and politely asked the inhabitants of Northumberland to lend them some livestock indefinitely. Or get chopped to pieces if they didn't agree.

The name was given to a loose bunch of cattle rustlers living on both sides of the border, not particularly recognising the border which after all they predated, who redistributed cattle around each other regularly.

But why not just categorise them as Scots stealing from the English?

[Bob Dalek]

As in, failing to be conquered? Don't remember Scotland invading England much.

They've got our bus shelters and doorways in Hammersmith.

[Mich the Tester]

As in, failing to be conquered? Don't remember Scotland invading England much.

Ever heard of the Border reivers? They were a bunch of freelance socialist cattle herders who quietly and politely asked the inhabitants of Northumberland to lend them some livestock indefinitely. Or get chopped to pieces if they didn't agree.

[expat]

I see, you're including when the Scots were doing the oppressing as well.

As in, failing to be conquered? Don't remember Scotland invading England much.

[Mich the Tester]

I'm going all the way back.

Please give a big round of applause to today’s guest history lecturer; Mr Mel Gibson!

[Doggy Styles]

I'm going all the way back.

I see, you're including when the Scots were doing the oppressing as well.

[minestrone]

300.

I'm going all the way back.

[expat]

It's payback for 700 years of oppression. Agent Brown's job is nearly done.

300.

[minestrone]

hand over to a Scottish numpty who'd kill for the chance to sit behind the wheel, no matter what.

It's payback for 700 years of oppression. Agent Brown's job is nearly done.

[Moscow Mule]

What happens with all these extra debts when we are still running a big deficit?

They get bigger.

[Bob Dalek]

Have you been reading "How to run a Labour government in 5 easy steps"?

Blair did it in 3 steps:

1. Drive the country as if in a demolition derby.
2. Just before the wheels come off, hand over to a Scottish numpty who'd kill for the chance to sit behind the wheel, no matter what.
3. Try for president of Europe, after a few years of flogging the book-n-lecture circuits.

[_V_]

Can someone confirm my understanding of this?

1. The government is in shedloads of debt.
2. The government wants to borrow a shedload more in order to get out of debt.
3. Potential lenders think this is daft.
4. The government has to raise yields to attract lenders.
5. The government debts increase because of the higher interest.

If I've got it right, it's a sort of debt spiral, isn't it.

What happens with all these extra debts when we are still running a big deficit?

Have you been reading "How to run a Labour government in 5 easy steps"?

[Doggy Styles]

Can someone confirm my understanding of this?

1. The government is in shedloads of debt.
2. The government wants to borrow a shedload more in order to get out of debt.
3. Potential lenders think this is daft.
4. The government has to raise yields to attract lenders.
5. The government debts increase because of the higher interest.

If I've got it right, it's a sort of debt spiral, isn't it.

What happens with all these extra debts when we are still running a big deficit?

[DodgyAgent]

They went bust last week. They only sold cheap and nasty stuff anyway

they can treat Dyslexia these days