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Previously on "US : the next failed state"

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by Liability View Post
    Interesting perspective - what do you mean he is up to it in blood?
    Look at already existing court decisions on torture and murder of civilians in Chechnya by Russian army - I think over 50 minimum and he was the guy who called publicly to "whack terrorists in the toilet", he is a war criminal - he got plenty of people who sworn blood vendetta on him, if he loses his bodyguards and state immunity he won't be able to travel around the world and will most likely get killed by his own buddies who'd prefer to use him as excuse for everything - basically blame everything on him like they did with Stalin.

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  • Liability
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    They can't survive if Russia was democratic, however it isn't and they can survive just by being more dictatorial - it happened already in history of Russia and likely to happen again - Putin is in blood up to his neck, he can't leave power because otherwise he is personally screwed, that's why they changed constitution now to have 6 years presidential terms for him to get 2 more at least. I'd say it is illegal power take over but they already did that years ago.
    Interesting perspective - what do you mean he is up to it in blood? What would stop him just turning his back and walking away?

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by Liability View Post
    Hmm true - but with limited, or rather dwindling funds and revenue how do you think they will survive?
    They can't survive if Russia was democratic, however it isn't and they can survive just by being more dictatorial - it happened already in history of Russia and likely to happen again - Putin is in blood up to his neck, he can't leave power because otherwise he is personally screwed, that's why they changed constitution now to have 6 years presidential terms for him to get 2 more at least. I'd say it is illegal power take over but they already did that years ago.

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  • Liability
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    The real threat right now is that hard liners in Russia will stop pretending they are playing this democracy, open market game and go proper totalitarian regime - scumbags like Putin came to power during crisis and new one will be opportunity for even harder person to do it, or more likely Putin just throw away his mask and turn proper dictator.
    Hmm true - but with limited, or rather dwindling funds and revenue how do you think they will survive?

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by Liability View Post
    Well if you look at the real threat it is Russia right now - they so relied on Oil being Above 100$
    The real threat right now is that hard liners in Russia will stop pretending they are playing this democracy, open market game and go proper totalitarian regime - scumbags like Putin came to power during crisis and new one will be opportunity for even harder person to do it, or more likely Putin just throw away his mask and turn proper dictator.

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  • Liability
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    oh I love it when I get corrected. Will you chase me nekid in brown underpants? I have one already doing it in Pink socks. Please?

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  • oracleslave
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    Originally posted by Liability View Post
    Well if you look at the real threat it is Russia right now - they so relied on Oil being Above 100$ - that was when there arrogance and psuedo "we are the new power" was coming into play. Anyone notice now how that has changed? Low and behold they even welcomed Obama and hoped relations would improve!

    They know that with oil where it is now - they are screwed! With there stockmarkets at near all time lows funny how they now shut up?

    Iran the same - big issues there - they need I beleive Oil to be over 80$ if I recall - below that and there in dire straits!
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    HTH.

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  • Liability
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    In such cases the danger is that real hardliners take over power.
    Well if you look at the real threat it is Russia right now - they so relied on Oil being Above 100$ - that was when there arrogance and psuedo "we are the new power" was coming into play. Anyone notice now how that has changed? Low and behold they even welcomed Obama and hoped relations would improve!

    They know that with oil where it is now - they are screwed! With there stockmarkets at near all time lows funny how they now shut up?

    Iran the same - big issues there - they need I beleive Oil to be over 80$ if I recall - below that and there in dire straits!

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by Liability View Post
    Exactly! Another 9 months of Oil below 70$ and Russia and Iran are Bye-Bye!
    In such cases the danger is that real hardliners take over power.

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  • Liability
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    He is nobody and he is printed by arse kissing yellow press in Russia.

    The ruble (russian currency) is on a verge of serious devaluation so his words are doubly laughable considering that and a few other things.
    Exactly! Another 9 months of Oil below 70$ and Russia and Iran are Bye-Bye!

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  • PAH
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    Shocking, the ruskies putting the boot into the yanks. Whatever next?

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  • AtW
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    He is nobody and he is printed by arse kissing yellow press in Russia.

    The ruble (russian currency) is on a verge of serious devaluation so his words are doubly laughable considering that and a few other things.

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  • DiscoStu
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    Originally posted by sappatz View Post
    Panarin, 60, is a professor at the Diplomatic Academy of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs
    You'll excuse me if I don't believe a word he says.

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  • sappatz
    started a topic US : the next failed state

    US : the next failed state

    russian expert speaking

    http://en.rian.ru/world/20081124/118512713.html

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