Reply to: Government spin AGAIN

[dinker]

Yes it has. 40 years ago science was respected and most people understood it was responsible for national wealth.
Now people are too stupid to make the connection.

national wealth is created by borrowing money, innit?

[EternalOptimist]

Pretty much everything has mass when it changes direction, even massless things.

There is an object in the universe that can change direction so quickly that it can be proven to have no mass, yet the inertia is so great that it must have infinite mass.
It's called my project manager

[Bob Dalek]

oh its one of those principles, thingies, you were talking about. like once you know them you can deduce the world.
IIRC there was a problem in amplifiers and the cause was that the electrons moved through the vacuum, hit the cathode but then bounced off before being reattracted. This proved that these things had mass. i.e. its a physical bounce rather than a magnetic type one.

interesting if you do a degree in ancient electronics, otherwise, useless, totally useless.

There was a small dimple in my understanding of our World that has now been filled. Thank you.

[TimberWolf]

oh its one of those principles, thingies, you were talking about. like once you know them you can deduce the world.
IIRC there was a problem in amplifiers and the cause was that the electrons moved through the vacuum, hit the cathode but then bounced off before being reattracted. This proved that these things had mass. i.e. its a physical bounce rather than a magnetic type one.

interesting if you do a degree in ancient electronics, otherwise, useless, totally useless.

Pretty much everything has mass when it changes direction, even massless things.

[EternalOptimist]

Go on then, enlighten us...

oh its one of those principles, thingies, you were talking about. like once you know them you can deduce the world.
IIRC there was a problem in amplifiers and the cause was that the electrons moved through the vacuum, hit the cathode but then bounced off before being reattracted. This proved that these things had mass. i.e. its a physical bounce rather than a magnetic type one.

interesting if you do a degree in ancient electronics, otherwise, useless, totally useless.

[TykeMerc]

I checked, my eldest did in fact get issued with an equations sheet with the exam papers, he thinks it's barking mad too.

I have to admit that I despair at the state of science, mathematics and engineering education in this country.

[expat]

You might be surprised: allocation of marks in dependent on particular key words being used, e.g. for 8c if you don't use the word they're looking for you don't get the mark, even if you exhibit a deep understanding of the workings of the universe.

Excuse me, there's only Hubble redshift, background radiation, and light elements. 8b does redshift so 8c must be the background. Whether or not you say cosmic or microwave, you definitely have it there.

[Platypus]

At a guess (i.e. without checking some of the numbers with a calculator) I scored 90%+ in 15-20 mins reading through that paper.

You might be surprised: allocation of marks in dependent on particular key words being used, e.g. for 8c if you don't use the word they're looking for you don't get the mark, even if you exhibit a deep understanding of the workings of the universe.

[expat]

do you want to know what cathode 'bounce' is

*smug b@stard warning*

Isn't it why you use a tetrode (or pentode)?

[EternalOptimist]

And now you're making a fortune making & selling valve amplifiers to the audio nuts?

do you want to know what cathode 'bounce' is

*smug b@stard warning*

[expat]

And now you're making a fortune making & selling valve amplifiers to the audio nuts?

I have wondered about that. I can't afford one of these, but maybe I could still build one. Still have soldering iron, and roll of 5-core self-fluxing solder that I bought in 1975 (not realinsing then that it would be a lifetime's supply).

[Doggy Styles]

The point is, a whistle is not actually simpler than radar, just more common.

I've just had a flashback - we used the term whistling to describe carrier frequencies working. That must be thanks to Raby, eh?

Sorry, carry on.

[expat]

Tch, yanks don't even know how a whistle works.

The point is, a whistle is not actually simpler than radar, just more common.

[EternalOptimist]

What's with the negative vibes? You're supposed to be an eternal optimist.

you should have seen where I started from

[Mich the Tester]

useless.
useless.

and I'll tell you something else. I was fixing a fault using my voltmete and a big manual with circuit diagrams and stuff, and these yanks were working on another piece of kit. They had a big box that looked like a gramaphone, they called it a computer.
'If you want , we will get you trained up to be our Brit liason on the computer stuff'
'no thanks, it's tulipe, it will never catch on'

useless, thats me.

What's with the negative vibes? You're supposed to be an eternal optimist.