Reply to: is he being ripped

[expat]

I'm not a builder either, but my partner (romantic) works for an electrical construction firm, and she says that all their electricians (not the mates) are on higher rate tax.

[expat]

PS, this is an IT forum, the computer boys. We are those dickheads you see down town drinking Belgian beer

while the plasterers are off in Dubai?

[smithandrew12]

cheers eternal and bill and everyone else

[Diver]

£150 a day seems about right as long as he isn't paying for a labourer out of his own pocket.
My kid brother charges between £210 and £240 a day

[Bill]

smithandrew12,

I'm no builder however my wife works in the industry (no shes not a builder before the comments come back) however she thinks he should probably be on more money. It also depends on if he is being paid by the job or by the hour. Either way, they should have some record of what has been done, however not all companies stick to this.
Either way, if he is working a 37.5 hour week and paid hourly, he is being paid below minimum wage, and either way this is illegal. BUT rocking the boat at this stage may not be the best thing to do with the economy the way it is.

Whatever you decide, be prepared for the wortst in case the tell him to sling his hook, a badly paid job is always better than no job.

[EternalOptimist]

cheers eternal and dodgy,i agree with the fact he is developing a trade and he himself is of the same mind and he is getting work at this difficult time though i suspect because they only pay him a fraction of what they pay the other guys ..what i think i need to find out is how the sub-contract thing works ie do you dictate the pricing or do you get what you are given ..should he be getting some kind of record of work completed and hours done from the contractors ..i know it may seem a tad strange daddy butting in but he wont say anything as he feels he may put his job at risk this i can understand but he is nearly 20 earning at best £150 a week and i feel it for the lad ..he has agreed to me putting a few feelers out and seeing what others think ...i wonder if he is only being paid for a certain amout of hours and someone else is possibly creaming some of his wages off ..cynical i know but possible unless some kind of work record is available.. so is it normal for no form of work record to be given to my son??????

see what happens? you ask a sensible question and you have to put up with a world of sh1te. Thats why, usually, when anybody asks a sensible question, I give THEM a world of sh1te. its sort of pre-revenging.

As a dad, you cant protect him all his life.
The best way to learn about sharks is to get bitten a few times, you dont want him to get bit, being his dad, but he'll survive.
In my opinion, the best thing you can do is to get the right attitude into his head, work hard, dont let anyone down, be excellent at everything you do, even if its sweeping up after the guys. When you make the tea lad, stand back and say, 'noone else could have done that better'.

He might lose a few quid now, being green, but if he has those attitudes, he will make it big time, in the long run.


PS, this is an IT forum, the computer boys. We are those dickheads you see down town drinking Belgian beer


good luck mate

[DiscoStu]

Surely it would be this

I never gave them permission to photograph my gold vault.

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[SallyAnne]

Surely it would be this

[lightng]

Ooh, they have a yellow hard hat as their logo.

Any suggestions for a CUK logo?

How about a set of bollocks?

Haha.

Not a hard hat for us - maybe one of these ...

Contractor Cap

[smithandrew12]

cheers eternal and dodgy,i agree with the fact he is developing a trade and he himself is of the same mind and he is getting work at this difficult time though i suspect because they only pay him a fraction of what they pay the other guys ..what i think i need to find out is how the sub-contract thing works ie do you dictate the pricing or do you get what you are given ..should he be getting some kind of record of work completed and hours done from the contractors ..i know it may seem a tad strange daddy butting in but he wont say anything as he feels he may put his job at risk this i can understand but he is nearly 20 earning at best £150 a week and i feel it for the lad ..he has agreed to me putting a few feelers out and seeing what others think ...i wonder if he is only being paid for a certain amout of hours and someone else is possibly creaming some of his wages off ..cynical i know but possible unless some kind of work record is available.. so is it normal for no form of work record to be given to my son??????

[BrianSnail]

Ooh, they have a yellow hard hat as their logo.

Any suggestions for a CUK logo?

How about a set of bollocks?

Or....dare I say it...yeah what the hell....narks!

[TheFaQQer]

Ooh, they have a yellow hard hat as their logo.

Any suggestions for a CUK logo?

How about a set of bollocks?

[Xenophon]

I am not qualified to rate it, but http://www.contractortalk.com/ seems to be for contractors in construction.

Ooh, they have a yellow hard hat as their logo.

Any suggestions for a CUK logo?

How about a set of bollocks?

[DodgyAgent]

hi all first time here so first of hello to all...dont know if you can help me but here goes... my son works in the construction industry as a plasterer he has gained his nvq level 2 over 2 years and has worked for the same company for 30 months he is now sub contracting to this company ....he is 19 and a half when he was doing his nvq he was earning £120 a week since gaining his nvq his wages as a subby are £150 a week now.. i dont know anything about subbing other than i'm sure he should be earning a dam site more than this and am a tad concerned as the only record he has of work done is a bank statement confirming wages being paid into his account ..no work sheets ..time sheets.. i am almost thinking he is being ripped off ..i may be wrong and this is the norm !!!!

He must know what hours he is working and therefore he must be able to benchmark his pay in the context of the industry. Parents often jump to conclusions, so dont until you have evidence.

[EternalOptimist]

hi all first time here so first of hello to all...dont know if you can help me but here goes... my son works in the construction industry as a plasterer he has gained his nvq level 2 over 2 years and has worked for the same company for 30 months he is now sub contracting to this company ....he is 19 and a half when he was doing his nvq he was earning £120 a week since gaining his nvq his wages as a subby are £150 a week now.. i dont know anything about subbing other than i'm sure he should be earning a dam site more than this and am a tad concerned as the only record he has of work done is a bank statement confirming wages being paid into his account ..no work sheets ..time sheets.. i am almost thinking he is being ripped off ..i may be wrong and this is the norm !!!!

my son is 17 , doing similar work for £100 pw, which is below the minimum wage. My advice to him was to bite hard and swallow because
a) he's picking up good skills that will last a lifetime
b) the building industry is not healthy at the mo
c) dont make a move untill you know 100% you have a fallback position


I dont know what the advice would be when he gets to 19 and he has his qualis, but thats what I am telling him right now