Reply to: Dubya to go out with all guns blazing?

[AlfredJPruffock]

Agree - but this was pride for Dubya - as his father was even more stupid them him and didnt finish SH off.

Obama is rumoured to have already done a deal with Iran in that they will talk to them IF Ahmedwhoisname steps down. Talking to Iran is the right thing to do - as you cant beat these people [Muslim Fundamentalists] in this war. It is never going to happen. So Obama needs to ensure that Oil prices go down - these challenging nations than suffer - including Russia - and then they will be more willing to cooperate. Good thing is that Saudi's are onside - as they always were - and with their £1.5 trillion safe in the bank they can afford to let the prices go down - as without USA the Saudi's wouldnt even have that money.

The main reason for not invdaing Iraq after the UN backed expulsion from Kuwait was that amounted to not only a breach of the UN mandate but more seriously Iraq at that time had an arsenal of chemical weapons that would have inflicted severe casualites on any invader - not to mention the possiblity of devastating Israel with Chemical Tipped SKUD missiles.

Instead over a period of a decade the UN dimsmantled Iraqs chemical and biologial capabilites not to the extent where the country could not resist the invasion of 2003.

However Saddam could have been removed from power in a far better way - Iran made a UN resolution in 2002 to order compulsary free elections in Iraq - and any meddling by the Baathists would have resulted in a UN intervention including Arab forces.

The USA vetoed this method and rather embarked upon a brutal invasion and occupation - there was a better way to achieve the removal of Saddam without the subsequent tragic and enormous loss of life.

[Liability]

What Bush should have done is to make a deal with Saddam Hussein, this would have allowed a lot of cheap oil to flow (not good for his oil buddies though) and also isolate Iran - the idiotic war in Iraq only helped Iran big time, not least due to high oil price that they get from this - their more or less main revenue that allowed them to make good progress in nuclear research.

Agree - but this was pride for Dubya - as his father was even more stupid them him and didnt finish SH off.

Obama is rumoured to have already done a deal with Iran in that they will talk to them IF Ahmedwhoisname steps down. Talking to Iran is the right thing to do - as you cant beat these people [Muslim Fundamentalists] in this war. It is never going to happen. So Obama needs to ensure that Oil prices go down - these challenging nations than suffer - including Russia - and then they will be more willing to cooperate. Good thing is that Saudi's are onside - as they always were - and with their £1.5 trillion safe in the bank they can afford to let the prices go down - as without USA the Saudi's wouldnt even have that money.

[Stan.goodvibes]

He is apparently busy writing more legislation for his buddies that relaxes the restrictions placed on their companies regarding environmental controls etc.

Legislation that is easy to create but difficult to overturn.

Same old dubya right up to the end..

[Mike Hunt]

Ye have all missed the point, the title of the thread is going out with a bang


Yes lets bring Monica Lewinski back in, or some Iranian hooker for some "Sexual Relations" and he pays them off with American tax money

[AtW]

oh the world would be much better if Iran had nuclear weapons.

What Bush should have done is to make a deal with Saddam Hussein, this would have allowed a lot of cheap oil to flow (not good for his oil buddies though) and also isolate Iran - the idiotic war in Iraq only helped Iran big time, not least due to high oil price that they get from this - their more or less main revenue that allowed them to make good progress in nuclear research.

[contractor79]

I seem to recall his old man hit Baghdad with a volley of cruise missiles before he ducked out.

How about that long mooted strike on the Iranian nuclear facility? Perhaps he'll give the Israelis the nod.

oh the world would be much better if Iran had nuclear weapons. They wouldn't use them on anyone, of course. Doh!

[AtW]

Yep, but even the oil price has collapsed now

Well, it collapsed from its peak, howeve at $60 per barrel it is still much higher than $20-25 it was at start of the decade - another problem though that with raising oil price costs increased too as everyone wanted piece of the pie, but $60 is pretty damn good price of oil that sure makes Bush's oil buddies very happy.

[Mich the Tester]

Well, to be fair the oil chaps that supported him should be grateful for the record oil prices that were achieved by Dubia's policies, also people like Putin are secretly happy that someone as stupid as Dubia could have been elected. I have great hopes that Obama will undo this major damage this idiot in the White House did - I can't really think of any other US president that would have squandered so much in such a short time.

Yep, but even the oil price has collapsed now thanks to the world’s economy being completely fooked, so all those investments in expensive shale oil and deep sea drilling are quickly going pear shaped. He really can’t possibly have many friends left beyond a few inbred donkeyshaggers in Texas. Oh, and contractor79 of course.

[AtW]

Or bankrupt them, just like he’s bankrupted everything else he ever ran.

Well, to be fair the oil chaps that supported him should be grateful for the record oil prices that were achieved by Dubia's policies, also people like Putin are secretly happy that someone as stupid as Dubia could have been elected. I have great hopes that Obama will undo this major damage this idiot in the White House did - I can't really think of any other US president that would have squandered so much in such a short time.

[Mich the Tester]

So many profits from oil to be made that he might just lose his head over it...

Or bankrupt them, just like he’s bankrupted everything else he ever ran.

[AtW]

you mean a profit sharing deal with Al-Qaeda? Wouldn't surprise me.

So many profits from oil to be made that he might just lose his head over it...

[ThomasSoerensen]

And he will be sent to work in Iraq? Maybe that could be offering of good will to Al Quaeda

you mean a profit sharing deal with Al-Qaeda? Wouldn't surprise me.

[AtW]

I assume he is about to take on a "consultant" role or the like for Halliburton and Black Water Security.

And he will be sent to work in Iraq? Maybe that could be offering of good will to Al Quaeda

[ThomasSoerensen]

I assume he is about to take on a "consultant" role or the like for Halliburton and Black Water Security.

He has to do some good you know.

[Bob Dalek]

He won't do anything now - he knows he will be lucky not to go to jail for what he has done already, but if he orders strike on Iran while new president was already elected he'd risk his personal life there and won't do it.

Jail? Ha ha ha, etc. He's bullet-proof.