Oh dear: EU starts to control UK sentencing policy

[Lucifer Box]

I always considered it much more distrubing how much influence politicians like the home secretary have on individual case's over here

And how much influence the Daily Mail has over the home secretary.

[Not So Wise]

even if the UK Government and Parliament are opposed

I always considered it much more distrubing how much influence politicians like the home secretary have on individual case's over here

[sappatz]

Eu

the EU is right in curbing British excentricity

[AtW]

Alexei, the principle of sovereignty, where we make and uphold our own laws, is being further eroded.

Nobody sovereign anymore -- everyone depends on each other with countries specialising in trade that they are most suited for them.

IMO laws accepted by majority for the EU should be applied throughout EU. This would prevent the crap that happened in Greece.

[wendigo100]

Alexei, the principle of sovereignty, where we make and uphold our own laws, is being further eroded.

By all accounts our MEPs seem to have little influence over law-making in the EU.

[The Late, Great JC]

This is exactly why you want EU laws to be uniform -- this way Greeks won't be able to use their own backwards law to imprison you, they will have to use the same laws that will be applied elsewhere.

And naturally unless all EU members vote for imprisoning people who watch aircraft this won't be in force.

Your own examples shown necessity for uniform laws. Its not like theft in the UK is any different from theft in Germany.

If the sign says "Do not take pictures of our Military Aircraft or we will put you in prison" what do you think it means AtW?

[Rebecca Loos]

course it's different. 2 examples:

- theft by chavs is legal in the UK. It's called "forced redistribution of resources acquired unfairly by bad rich people"
- theft of a car is not a theft as such, it is called in police terms "aggravated vehicle taking" and in law is therefore classified differently.

Not bad hey?

[AtW]

So we can all be imprisoned in this country because the Greeks don't like people taking pictures of aircraft perhaps?

This is exactly why you want EU laws to be uniform -- this way Greeks won't be able to use their own backwards law to imprison you, they will have to use the same laws that will be applied elsewhere.

And naturally unless all EU members vote for imprisoning people who watch aircraft this won't be in force.

Your own examples shown necessity for uniform laws. Its not like theft in the UK is any different from theft in Germany.

[AtW]

Don't you mean so long as everyone wants them?

Laws decided by voting in which all interested parties can take part.

I don't see any reason whatsoever why the same crime should be given different sentences in different parts of EU.

The law will only be respected if its universally applied.

[wendigo100]

Nothing wrong with common laws either so long as they are applied to everyone.

Don't you mean so long as everyone wants them?

Suppose I don't like a law?

[AtW]

Whatever happened to the simple philosophy of a common market?

Nothing wrong with common laws either so long as they are applied to everyone.

[wendigo100]

The Times

In a ruling yesterday, Brussels was given the power to compel British courts to fine or imprison people for breaking EU laws, even if the UK Government and Parliament are opposed.

Whatever happened to the simple philosophy of a common market?