Reply to: Ryanair set for £8 flights to US

[thelace]

Use the budget airlines a lot.... They're not perfect, but remember before they came along, how expensive air travel was?

Think I paid £210 return from Manchester to Jersey (40minute flight) in the mid '80s....

Now I can pretty much get from Newcastle to any European City for £80 return (if I book in advance ).

A big shout for Eastern Airways though...

£200 return from Newcastle to Southampton (OK I could go BMI for £50) but you get a glass of champagne served with your nibbles each way... and they have a checkin service that means you can arrive at the airport 20 minutes before your flight, rather than 2 hours

[jmo21]

i've been flying ryanair for ages and really don't have any issues with them

yeah, their flights may get delayed more than most (though they say they have most on-time flights in Europe, the world, or something...the galaxy?!) but they are not as bad as some people make out

[pmeswani]

I agree - with bells on. I recently went to a popular destination with BA. Check in was a breeze no queues. I've got a frequent flyer gold card too so I gave it large in the biz lounge even though I flew economy. The aircraft was half full and got a sandwich and cup of coffee thrown in for free.

The 'bucket' airlines Sleazy Jet etc were all doing great business it seemed. Well, if you call great business snaking great queues of ..... well football shirted, cropped hair types and associated Sharons, all featuring aggressive attitudes and beer bellies (and that's just the women)

Never I tell you - never. Too old and too much of a snob.

EasyJet are an ok carrier... not great, but not as bad as Ryan"I shall vomit over the seat and carpet"air. I live in West London and have access to a bus that takes me to Heathrow Central (Would need to take 2 or 3 buses to get to Terminal 5). However, getting to Luton and Gatwick is doable but requires more hops. So I can't complain about accessibility to the major London(ish) airports.

[Jubber]

I wouldn't fly ryanair full stop. I would prefer to fly in the cargo hold on British Airways than to set foot on Ryanair.

I agree - with bells on. I recently went to a popular destination with BA. Check in was a breeze no queues. I've got a frequent flyer gold card too so I gave it large in the biz lounge even though I flew economy. The aircraft was half full and got a sandwich and cup of coffee thrown in for free.

The 'bucket' airlines Sleazy Jet etc were all doing great business it seemed. Well, if you call great business snaking great queues of ..... well football shirted, cropped hair types and associated Sharons, all featuring aggressive attitudes and beer bellies (and that's just the women)

Never I tell you - never. Too old and too much of a snob.

[norrahe]

unfortunately vermin air are the only airline that go from luton to where i come from in Ireland.

I hate flying with them.

booked a flight for a funeral next week 99p each way turned into £55! and that's with me checking in online and taking carry on bags.

[tim123]

Could you have got there for £46 by any other means ?

He hasn't got there with RyanAir for 46 quid yet.

He may not yet do so

tim

[MPwannadecentincome]

Then why bother with economy atall? Why not just fill the entire plane with business class?

Some airlines tried that - they mostly all went bust.

Simply not enough people / companies prepared to pay such high fares.

Regarding the point about companies not paying for their employees to go on Ryanair when they can go on a quality airline - when times are tough and it may be a choice of not flying at all you would be surprised how many companies will FORCE their employees to fly Ryanair.

[BrilloPad]

The same way any other airline does, by using Business Class fares to subsidize Economy Pax:

"Economy class will be very cheap, around 10 euros, but our business class will be very expensive,"

However, I don't see this working for Ryanair. I can't see too many businesses buying into the Ryanair model for transatlantic flights, they're more likey to fly Economy with a quality airline!

tim

Then why bother with economy atall? Why not just fill the entire plane with business class?

[pmeswani]

The same way any other airline does, by using Business Class fares to subsidize Economy Pax:

"Economy class will be very cheap, around 10 euros, but our business class will be very expensive,"

However, I don't see this working for Ryanair. I can't see too many businesses buying into the Ryanair model for transatlantic flights, they're more likey to fly Economy with a quality airline!

tim

I wouldn't fly ryanair full stop. I would prefer to fly in the cargo hold on British Airways than to set foot on Ryanair.

[tim123]

How much does the fuel cost? And salaries for staff? And airport fees? How can they do it that cheap?

The same way any other airline does, by using Business Class fares to subsidize Economy Pax:

"Economy class will be very cheap, around 10 euros, but our business class will be very expensive,"

However, I don't see this working for Ryanair. I can't see too many businesses buying into the Ryanair model for transatlantic flights, they're more likey to fly Economy with a quality airline!

tim

[Board Game Geek]

Could you have got there for £46 by any other means ?

If not, I don't really see the problem.

[TimberWolf]

But you booked it didn't you ?

I'd be inclined to say their tactics worked admirably.

Yep, it was still the cheapest flight I could find, especially since the airport (Lubeck) they use is some distance from Hamburg, which was handy in this case.

[Board Game Geek]

Still a v. cheap flight but these tactics are wearing a bit thin now.

But you booked it didn't you ?

I'd be inclined to say their tactics worked admirably.

[TimberWolf]

FFS. Booked a flight to Germany today with RyanAir. Cost of the return flight: £0.00. Add £46 in taxes and fees. Okay, this is still very cheap. Okay, another £4 if you forget to check-in on-line 14 days before departure. PITA, but okay. Ignore the cost for baggage and insurance, I don't need it. Coup de grace is another £10 charge for paying by Visa debit card FFS. Still a v. cheap flight but these tactics are wearing a bit thin now.

[YHB]

Buffet is an investor - he does not short shares. Perhaps he likes shorters as they would force share prices of good companies down so that he could buy them cheaper thus riding the wave, don't know, however case of VW shows how abusive hedge funds really are.

I give up, go google the VW situation and you will see HF's did nothing wrong, was nothing to do with what you said ie profits. The price of preference shares Vs normal shares had fallen out of historical alignment..


arghhh forget it. Live in blissful ignorance fool.