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[EternalOptimist]

If Hitler did not attack USSR I think Britain would have no choice but to surrender few years after Dunkirk - the only way it worked was because Hitler got involved heavy with USSR and almost all forces were there. I think Rommel pretty clearly demonstrated that German land forces are not easily trounced, on the other hand I think if Britain surrendered after Dunkirk when it could get good terms then Hitler would have, in my view, successfully invaded USSR.

So I give credit to British stubborness not to agree to make peace after Dunkirk.

mostly correct, except thats Britains surrender was not inevitable. Britain survived the continental system in the Napoleonic era due to a successful 'blue water' policy, if they could survive the uboat threat, and any air threat, there is no reason why they could not stand alone indefinately, against the nazis, using a similar policy.

That would have left Adolf with one giant problem. a bulldog attached to his left leg, a commie attached to his right leg, and a sleepy USA wondering when it was ok to kick him in between.

Of course, Adolf decided not to wait. And the rest is history......

[BrilloPad]

IF

Wasn't that a poem? Kipling?

[DodgyAgent]

If Hitler did not attack USSR I think Britain would have no choice but to surrender few years after Dunkirk - the only way it worked was because Hitler got involved heavy with USSR and almost all forces were there. I think Rommel pretty clearly demonstrated that German land forces are not easily trounced, on the other hand I think if Britain surrendered after Dunkirk when it could get good terms then Hitler would have, in my view, successfully invaded USSR.

So I give credit to British stubborness not to agree to make peace after Dunkirk.

IF

[BrilloPad]

Thanks for that.
Now back to your hobby.

He has a hobby? It is posting bollox on cuk?

[sasguru]

If Hitler did not attack USSR I think Britain would have no choice but to surrender few years after Dunkirk - the only way it worked was because Hitler got involved heavy with USSR and almost all forces were there. I think Rommel pretty clearly demonstrated that German land forces are not easily trounced, on the other hand I think if Britain surrendered after Dunkirk when it could get good terms then Hitler would have, in my view, successfully invaded USSR.

So I give credit to British stubborness not to agree to make peace after Dunkirk.

Thanks for that.
Now back to your hobby.

[AtW]

The last time the Germans tried to do things on their own was during the war, and we trounced them.

If Hitler did not attack USSR I think Britain would have no choice but to surrender few years after Dunkirk - the only way it worked was because Hitler got involved heavy with USSR and almost all forces were there. I think Rommel pretty clearly demonstrated that German land forces are not easily trounced, on the other hand I think if Britain surrendered after Dunkirk when it could get good terms then Hitler would have, in my view, successfully invaded USSR.

So I give credit to British stubborness not to agree to make peace after Dunkirk.

[DodgyAgent]

Indeed. That is not its purpose.

It will only confuse AtW

[sasguru]

Please do not introduce logic or fact into this discussion expat.

Indeed. That is not its purpose. We are conducting crucial emergency surgery in removing atW's head from deep in his arse where it is firmly lodged.

[DodgyAgent]

Something to do with absorbing a large communist country smoothly into their economy? I'd love to see anybody else managing that.

As for so many British contractors working in Germany, I'd see that as a sign of the strength of the German economy (in creating more jobs than they can fill themselves) and the weakness of the British economy (in not creating enough jobs for its own people).

Please do not introduce logic or fact into this discussion expat.

[expat]

So if Germany has so wonderful a manufacturing base then why has it not created the jobs to keep 4 million in work for the last 10 years?

Something to do with absorbing a large communist country smoothly into their economy? I'd love to see anybody else managing that.

As for so many British contractors working in Germany, I'd see that as a sign of the strength of the German economy (in creating more jobs than they can fill themselves) and the weakness of the British economy (in not creating enough jobs for its own people).

[sasguru]

Why would they want to make them.

The last time the Germans tried to do things on their own was during the war, and we trounced them.

Also who are the recruitment businesses in Germany?

Why none other than Hays, Progressive, Huxley etc.. British agencies. We dont need to manufacture. we put the deals together wherever in the world they may be. This leaves the manuc=facturers with no control over what happens to their products or where even they are manufactured.

Germany is just another India with a language problem, without the business skills and ambition to take it any further.

Yes and if SKA was any good, atW would have to rely on British marketeers and City finance to make it big.

[DodgyAgent]

So wealthy arabs that buy Rolls Royces and thus use them are now the people who make them?



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Why would they want to make them.

The last time the Germans tried to do things on their own was during the war, and we trounced them.

Also who are the recruitment businesses in Germany?

Why none other than Hays, Progressive, Huxley etc.. British agencies. We dont need to manufacture. we put the deals together wherever in the world they may be. This leaves the manuc=facturers with no control over what happens to their products or where even they are manufactured.

Germany is just another India with a language problem, without the business skills and ambition to take it any further.

[sasguru]

I was giving high enough figure to avoid him argueing about fraction of a percent, being so big for that case yet so small overall it was clearly disproving his arguement.

That sentence summarises what the problem is with you.

[AtW]

Who is it that uses Bosch drills the most?
British DITYers of course

So wealthy arabs that buy Rolls Royces and thus use them are now the people who make them?

Seems like a bit of a steep concession. More like a tiny fraction of a percent?

I was giving high enough figure to avoid him argueing about fraction of a percent, being so big for that case yet so small overall it was clearly disproving his arguement.

[sasguru]

We are the Accentures, PWCs, designers and ITers and the Germans and Indians get their hands dirty. If you think that the value here is in the getting the hands dirty then you are an even bigger fool than we already take you for

Game set and match to Dodgy.

Nice one