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Originally posted by TheBigYinJames View PostBTW I'm agnostic, so I'm not trying to convert you to belief in anything.
Too many current world problems are due to religions - the only way to address root cause of problems is to deal with religions, and the first step would be prohibition of teaching this stuff to children.
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Originally posted by AtW View PostSo if I strapped explosives to myself and blown up a bunch of civilians, would that have made things better? I think not.
Have you ever considered that atheism is a religious faith? An active belief in the nonexistence of god with no substantive proof is just as wide-eyed and raving as any theist fervour. The fact that you are getting angry with me about it tells it all. When people are sure about things, there is no need to shout. It's only when there's uncertainty, as with atheism, that people start getting shouty and desk thumpy when people disagree.
BTW I'm agnostic, so I'm not trying to convert you to belief in anything.
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Originally posted by TheBigYinJames View PostIt shows.Last edited by AtW; 30 September 2008, 19:01.
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Originally posted by AtW View PostNo I have not had any religions education, thank you very much.
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Originally posted by TheBigYinJames View Posthave you actually had any religious education?
Have you ever thought that if religions were held to fraud (and obtaining money by deception) legislation they'd all be disbanded and their members be doing long jail sentences?
I don't have a problem with some key things like not to steal, not to murder etc, that's fine by me however a number of other things usually have very negative impact - the only way to have a chance of stopping this madness is to prevent new members being acquired by those religions - this means putting a stop to brainwashing of children, so hopefully in a few generations most of problems associated with religions will go away.
The Christianity is more mild these days then before, however if this problem is to be solved you can't just target Islam but all religions - even Buddism that I think is pretty mild. The west is lucky that Mohammad did not land there.
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Originally posted by TheBigYinJames View Posthave you actually had any religious education? Nobody is made to believe anything (such a concept is ludicrous anyway)
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Originally posted by AtW View Postthey certainly should not be allowed to be made belive in stuff that defies common sense.
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Originally posted by cailin maith View Postwhen they reach an age to really understand what they were doing, want to change their religion, I wouldn't stand in their way. However, for my own peace of mind and my own faith, I'd want them baptised.
There would have been a lot less violence in the world if religions played no role, well maybe Buddhism would have actually been pretty positive.
It's ridiculous really - parents are not allowed to smack misbehaving children, yet they are allowed to brainwash them with rubbish that will cause untold problems in the future.Last edited by AtW; 30 September 2008, 17:35.
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Originally posted by Board Game Geek View PostGlad I wasn't baptised.
I mean, what right does a parent have to baptise a baby / child, when aforementioned child has not had its' own chance to make a choice ?
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Originally posted by Ruprect View PostI would say that is a help. And you are being hypocritical; sorry, but you are.
If it is hypocrisy, I can live with it. What I couldn't live with is holding my own beliefs above the future opportunities of my children and denying them acccess to a decent education for the sake of not telling a porky to the local cleric.
Do you actually have kids Ruprect?
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Originally posted by TheBigYinJames View PostTell me what I can do about it? All that would happen is that they would close down faith schools, helping nobody.
I'm not being a hypocrite. I'm being pragmatic. i don't believe in Object Orientation either, but if I want a job that needs it, it's the best thing since sliced bread.
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Originally posted by Board Game Geek View PostI mean, what right does a parent have to baptise a baby / child, when aforementioned child has not had its' own chance to make a choice ?
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I totally understand why people do it, it just frustrates me so much that no one is willing to do anything about it.[/QUOTE]
Tell me what I can do about it? All that would happen is that they would close down faith schools, helping nobody.
I'm not being a hypocrite. I'm being pragmatic. i don't believe in Object Orientation either, but if I want a job that needs it, it's the best thing since sliced bread.
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