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What was that about sad posts? You are sat at your comp on a sunday afternoon talking about Vacuum CleanersOriginally posted by bogeyman View PostDon't forget the spherical Hoover Constellation. A truly space-aged beast that floated on a cushion of air, exactly capturing the Zeitgeist (!) of the 1960s era of space exploration.
We had one when I was a kid, and it was a bugger. We has a long sloping passage and when Hoovering 'downhill', the Constellation would catch you up and knock you over if you didn't keep an eye out for it.
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Don't forget the spherical Hoover Constellation. A truly space-aged beast that floated on a cushion of air, exactly capturing the Zeitgeist (!) of the 1960s era of space exploration.Originally posted by zeitghostThe only professional cleanin lady I've ever seen with a dyson was on that "How Clean is your House" prog, where the blonde one with the bun more or less said it was much the same as the old hoover they were comparing it with... and 3 times the price.
Hoover Junior must have been one of the best ever designed... built like a brick tuliphouse & lasts(ed) for ever.
No wonder they stopped making them.
We had one when I was a kid, and it was a bugger. We has a long sloping passage and when Hoovering 'downhill', the Constellation would catch you up and knock you over if you didn't keep an eye out for it.
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It wasn't a Panasonic by chance? I've got one that sucks like the Dickens (1750 Watts) but has to be thoroughly cleaned after every use, otherwise the suction bypass kicks in with a resultant reduction in lots of that suction. I should really bin it. I was never sure if mine was bust or whether the design was carp. I suspected the latter.Originally posted by tim123 View Post(I note that there are some other, cheaper, bagless cleaners on the market. I bought one, IIRC it was 59 pounds. It was CFU and went into the dustbin quicker than the 15 pound value one I have already mentioned, will be)
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Dyson had to defend his patent in court. The established cleaner manufacturers saw the market share that he was taking and (belatedly) ld their own "bag-less" cleaners.Originally posted by Fishface View PostDyson didn't invent the technology (I guess he never claims he does - just says nothing) - he just domesticated it (smart guy). They aren't as good at doing the job.
The same argument was used, that it wasn't a new invention.
Dyson won and the other manufacturers, who had already started to sell bag-less cleaners were forced to withdraw their products and pay compensation.
So something in Dyson's invention stops everybody else from making a bagless cleaner using the same technology.
(I note that there are some other, cheaper, bagless cleaners on the market. I bought one, IIRC it was 59 pounds. It was CFU and went into the dustbin quicker than the 15 pound value one I have already mentioned, will be)
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A Hoover Junior gets my vote, although they stopped making them because they were too reliable.
Failing one of those, a Miele.
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Now if it had been called Henrietta, the social stigma wouldn't have been so badOriginally posted by basshead View Post
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Nilfisk
Mine is now 12 years old.. still going strong. will suck badly fitted carpet off the floor. Has triple filters to ensure asthma peeps are well looked after too. oh hang on - it was the equiv of 400pound back then.
maybe a cheap low mileage second hand one ?
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Dyson goes into some detail about where he nicked the idea from, and your description sounds about right, though I forget the details. I'm not a big Dyson fan myself (the man or machine) but I've owned two (now kaput) in the past. I've not seen cleaners use them.Originally posted by Fishface View Postone of my dad's clients was Sikorsky in the 60's - apart from helicopters they made huge industrial sized vacuums with the 'dyson' technology for cement factories. They used this technology because it is cheaper to maintain on an industrial scale.
...apparently the technology used in a Dyson is the same - and has 60% the efficiency of the 'bag' and 'fan' method, although 100% of that 60% is utilised as Dyson claims - the 'bag and 'fan' only utilises 85% of its suction.
Dyson didn't invent the technology (I guess he never claims he does - just says nothing) - he just domesticated it (smart guy). They aren't as good at doing the job.
Miele - great - last forever also.
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My plumber recommended the Henry to me. Apparently they are what professional cleaners use. They must be good, as no-one can be buying them for their styling/image. (My wife refused on those grounds, so can't comment on cleaning ability from experience.) Argos sell them.
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one of my dad's clients was Sikorsky in the 60's - apart from helicopters they made huge industrial sized vacuums with the 'dyson' technology for cement factories. They used this technology because it is cheaper to maintain on an industrial scale.
...apparently the technology used in a Dyson is the same - and has 60% the efficiency of the 'bag' and 'fan' method, although 100% of that 60% is utilised as Dyson claims - the 'bag and 'fan' only utilises 85% of its suction.
Dyson didn't invent the technology (I guess he never claims he does - just says nothing) - he just domesticated it (smart guy). They aren't as good at doing the job.
Miele - great - last forever also.
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Buy the 15 quid "value" one from Tesco (and elsewhere), use it till the supplied bags are all used up, throw away and repeat.
(No, I'm not joking)
tim
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My hoover is an Electrolux jobbie from Argos.
Very powerful thing it is. Replaces a useless yellow thing bought from Argos a few years ago.
This thing cost £70 or so and has plenty of suction. Often have to use the 'vent' option because it sucks too much. I reckon Dyson's are for fools with too much money; such as contractors who like working weekends
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