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  • wobbegong
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    Originally posted by Mailman View Post
    Wonder of mahomad in Gitmo is warming up the bed next to him for his new cell mate?

    You do the crime, dont come crying to momma when you have to do the time.

    Mailman
    Is that some sort of WWF wrestler?

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  • Mailman
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    Wonder of mahomad in Gitmo is warming up the bed next to him for his new cell mate?

    You do the crime, dont come crying to momma when you have to do the time.

    Mailman
    Last edited by Mailman; 6 August 2008, 10:53.

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  • ASB
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    Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
    Not to be confused with http://upthegary.org.uk/
    I expect that will be what happens shortly after he's been sent down.

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  • DimPrawn
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    Originally posted by ace00 View Post

    Further info : http://freegary.org.uk/
    Not to be confused with http://upthegary.org.uk/

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  • ace00
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    Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
    In my mind it is similar to leaving a £300K Ferrari outside your house with the doors slightly ajar and the keys on the seat and then crying foul when someone jumps in and takes it for a spin.

    The US IT staff should be the ones facing a trial.
    WHS.

    Anyone in networks can see this is a frame up by the IT bods at DoD.
    He did commit an offence, but the reaction is entirely OTT.

    Further info : http://freegary.org.uk/

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  • snaw
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    Originally posted by ace00 View Post
    That's the whole point this guy is no Hacker.
    Yeah but he gets to say on his CV he hacked into the US military defence system. There are a shedload of companies who'll pay this guy a lot of cash to do penetration testing etc with that kind of 'background'.

    FFS My current gig pays this external company ten grand per intrusion test - it's like one days work, if that. I've told them what I think of this, but they persist in paying anyway.

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  • DimPrawn
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    In my mind it is similar to leaving a £300K Ferrari outside your house with the doors slightly ajar and the keys on the seat and then crying foul when someone jumps in and takes it for a spin.

    The US IT staff should be the ones facing a trial.

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  • ace00
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    Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
    He's going to earn a fortune testing and designing security systems and hacking into computers of enemies of the US of A
    You know that's largely an urban myth, and if it were the case why would they pay a fortune? You can get a fella in India to remote VNC / PC anywhere / Whatever to your PC for peanuts.
    That's the whole point this guy is no Hacker.

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  • snaw
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    Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
    He's going to earn a fortune testing and designing security systems and hacking into computers of enemies of the US of A
    Funny that - go and research most of the famous hackers, and they're now doing exactly that ...

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  • DodgyAgent
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    Originally posted by ace00 View Post
    FYI, here's most of the original inditement:

    "Assistant U.S. Attorney Scott S. Christie.
    The seven-count Virginia Indictment charges McKinnon for intrusions into 92 computer systems belonging to the U.S. Army, Navy, Air Force, Department of Defense and NASA. As a result of the intrusions into the U.S. military networks, McKinnon rendered the network for the Military District of Washington inoperable. McKinnon is also charged in the Virginia indictment with intrusions into two computers located at the Pentagon. The Virginia Indictment also charges McKinnon for intrusions into six private companies’ networks. McKinnon is charged in Virginia with causing approximately $900,000 in damages to computers located in 14 states. ... Concerning the New Jersey charges, McKinnon’s series of computer network intrusions had a profound effect on Naval Weapons Station Earle’s (NWS Earle) ability to accomplish its mission in the immediate aftermath of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, according to U.S. Attorney Christie. The entire network of 300 computers at NWS Earle, located in Colts Neck, N.J., was effectively shut down for an entire week, according to military officials at NWS Earle. For another three weeks afterward, military personnel and government civilian employees at NWSE were only able to send and receive internal e-mail. It was only approximately a month after McKinnon’s last intrusion into the network that NWS Earle was able to automatically route Naval message traffic and access the Internet, according to military officials at NWS Earle. This was a grave intrusion into a vital military computer system at a time when we, as a nation, had to summon all of our defenses against further attack, Christie said. McKinnon faces a maximum penalty of five years in federal prison and a $250,000 fine. Efforts are under way to extradite McKinnon from the United Kingdom to stand trial on the charge, said U.S. Attorney Christie. The NWS Earle is a command of the U.S. Navy responsible for replenishing munitions and supplies for the Atlantic fleet. To assist in carrying out its mission, NWS Earle maintains and operates a network of approximately 300 computers in Colts Neck for the use of its military personnel and government civilian employees. The Indictment charges that on April 7, 2001, McKinnon hacked into the NWS Earle computer network through the Port Services computer, the primary computer used by NWS Earle for monitoring the identity, location, physical condition, staffing, battle readiness and resupply of Navy ships in and near the NWS Earle Pier Complex. At that time, he is alleged to have installed the software program RemotelyAnywhere on the Port Services computer and on other computers connected to the NWS Earle network. RemotelyAnywhere is a commercially available software program that allows an individual to remotely control a computer from any other computer via an Internet connection. The Indictment further charges that during the period of June 18, 2001 through June 21, 2001, McKinnon obtained unauthorized access to the Port Services computer on several occasions via an Internet connection and, through use of the previously-installed RemotelyAnywhere software, stole approximately 950 passwords stored on server computers connected to the NWS Earle network.
    In addition, the Indictment charges that on Sept. 23, 2001, McKinnon again broke into the NWS Earle computer network by accessing the previously-installed RemotelyAnywhere software and using the stolen passwords. During this intrusion into the network, McKinnon allegedly caused approximately $290,431 in damage to NWS Earle by deleting computer files needed to power up some of the computers on the network, deleting computer logs that documented his intrusion into the network, and compromising the security of the network by leaving it vulnerable to him and other intruders via the RemotelyAnywhere software
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    Highlighted some of the specific technical charges.
    Seems to me to be a grossly disproportianate response from the authorities.
    Perhaps they would do better to focus on getting a network admin, or you know maybe a firewall or something crazy like that?


    He's going to earn a fortune testing and designing security systems and hacking into computers of enemies of the US of A

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  • ace00
    started a topic Gary McKinnon

    Gary McKinnon

    FYI, here's most of the original inditement:

    "Assistant U.S. Attorney Scott S. Christie.
    The seven-count Virginia Indictment charges McKinnon for intrusions into 92 computer systems belonging to the U.S. Army, Navy, Air Force, Department of Defense and NASA. As a result of the intrusions into the U.S. military networks, McKinnon rendered the network for the Military District of Washington inoperable. McKinnon is also charged in the Virginia indictment with intrusions into two computers located at the Pentagon. The Virginia Indictment also charges McKinnon for intrusions into six private companies’ networks. McKinnon is charged in Virginia with causing approximately $900,000 in damages to computers located in 14 states. ... Concerning the New Jersey charges, McKinnon’s series of computer network intrusions had a profound effect on Naval Weapons Station Earle’s (NWS Earle) ability to accomplish its mission in the immediate aftermath of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, according to U.S. Attorney Christie. The entire network of 300 computers at NWS Earle, located in Colts Neck, N.J., was effectively shut down for an entire week, according to military officials at NWS Earle. For another three weeks afterward, military personnel and government civilian employees at NWSE were only able to send and receive internal e-mail. It was only approximately a month after McKinnon’s last intrusion into the network that NWS Earle was able to automatically route Naval message traffic and access the Internet, according to military officials at NWS Earle. This was a grave intrusion into a vital military computer system at a time when we, as a nation, had to summon all of our defenses against further attack, Christie said. McKinnon faces a maximum penalty of five years in federal prison and a $250,000 fine. Efforts are under way to extradite McKinnon from the United Kingdom to stand trial on the charge, said U.S. Attorney Christie. The NWS Earle is a command of the U.S. Navy responsible for replenishing munitions and supplies for the Atlantic fleet. To assist in carrying out its mission, NWS Earle maintains and operates a network of approximately 300 computers in Colts Neck for the use of its military personnel and government civilian employees. The Indictment charges that on April 7, 2001, McKinnon hacked into the NWS Earle computer network through the Port Services computer, the primary computer used by NWS Earle for monitoring the identity, location, physical condition, staffing, battle readiness and resupply of Navy ships in and near the NWS Earle Pier Complex. At that time, he is alleged to have installed the software program RemotelyAnywhere on the Port Services computer and on other computers connected to the NWS Earle network. RemotelyAnywhere is a commercially available software program that allows an individual to remotely control a computer from any other computer via an Internet connection. The Indictment further charges that during the period of June 18, 2001 through June 21, 2001, McKinnon obtained unauthorized access to the Port Services computer on several occasions via an Internet connection and, through use of the previously-installed RemotelyAnywhere software, stole approximately 950 passwords stored on server computers connected to the NWS Earle network.
    In addition, the Indictment charges that on Sept. 23, 2001, McKinnon again broke into the NWS Earle computer network by accessing the previously-installed RemotelyAnywhere software and using the stolen passwords. During this intrusion into the network, McKinnon allegedly caused approximately $290,431 in damage to NWS Earle by deleting computer files needed to power up some of the computers on the network, deleting computer logs that documented his intrusion into the network, and compromising the security of the network by leaving it vulnerable to him and other intruders via the RemotelyAnywhere software
    -------------------------------------------------------

    Highlighted some of the specific technical charges.
    Seems to me to be a grossly disproportianate response from the authorities.
    Perhaps they would do better to focus on getting a network admin, or you know maybe a firewall or something crazy like that?

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