Reply to: The Da Vinci Code

[Mailman]

So what is it about this novel that is getting some nuns upset?
Has anyone read it, and if so what's your opinion on it?

Lets see...some nuns get upset and nothing happens. Some mulahs get upset and call for the infidel to be put to death.

Yeah...islam...the religion of peace

Mailman

[Churchill]

Well LG ask yourself what is stopping you from meeting Jesus? Your unbelief? Apathy? The invitation is open to all.

I would never join any club or society that would have me as a member.

[Chico]

Well LG ask yourself what is stopping you from meeting Jesus? Your unbelief? Apathy? The invitation is open to all.

[The Lone Gunman]

who have met the real Jesus

Bit unfair that isnt it? to those who havent had said experience I mean. It was easy for Moses and Noah and Mohammed et al as they had proof of their own experience. How the rest of us are supposed to base our faith on the experience of others is a bit more difficult.
I did some voluntary work in a mental institution in my youth, if I put my faith in all the ravings I heard in there.......

Nice for you though, you met Jesus and are eternally blessed. I havent so I am eternaly damned. Nice of him to choose you wasnt it.

[Chico]

I have read and listened to testimony after testimony about people, not unlike members on this board, who have met the real Jesus and now have a loving relationship with their Creator. Atheists,Jews, Imams, Hindus the lot - I have seen all of them come to faith and its shows that irrespective of background, culture and education. It is interesting that the public face of Alpha Course - Nicky Gumbel a Jewish atheist who came to faith when he was reading law at Cambridge.

[Churchill]

I don't disbelieve he existed. However, I think the stories about his life are exaggerated.

I don't believe in Adam and Eve. Does that make me an Atheist?

I'm not asking if you believe he existed.

I said how can you claim to be a Christian if you don't believe in Jesus Christ?

[Lucifer Box]

I don't believe in Adam and Eve. Does that make me an Atheist?

According to Chico, it makes you Hitler.

[dazza12]

I don't disbelieve he existed. However, I think the stories about his life are exaggerated.

I don't believe in Adam and Eve. Does that make me an Atheist?

[Churchill]

What overwhelming evidence is there that Jesus existed then? Unlike you, I don't blindly follow what some weirdo in a frock has tried to tell me, or the 'facts' in the world's best selling book (the Bible).

You can't pick parts of the Old and New Testament that may be verifiable and decide that therefore the whole of the work must be true. That's blind faith.

You think I've read the Da Vinci Code and blindly followed what it said? No. I've been sceptical of the story of Jesus for many years, in fact I only read Dan Brown's books in the last few months. I'm not an atheist, I'm a Christian. Just not as gullible as some Christians.

As I have said, I have an open mind, if there is evidence to suggest either story I will look at it objectively. Before you assume though - I'm not saying I don't believe in God, just that the stories concerning JC are not only unproven but are inconsistent throughout the book.

The opinions of Matthew, Mark, Luke, John etc as evidence? I'm afraid that's not proof, it's heresay.

By reading the above I was puzzled by the fact that you claim to be a Christian but don't believe in Jesus Christ.

[Lucifer Box]

Some say that the account of Jesus' life in The Koran is most likely the closest we have, or are ever likely to have, to an accurate account, and even that is highly romanticised. Some sources believe it to be closely based on (possibly even a direct copy of) sections of one of the excised gospels and, unlike the New Testament, was never subjected to post release editorial jiggery pokery.

[dazza12]

I never said I didn't believe in JC. I do however think the stories about him are possibly untrue, and the truth is that he was in fact a mortal.

The stories of him being of Jewish royal descent do seem to have a bit more weight to them. For a start, mortality can be proven, immortality can't as yet, so it would appear the story of him being a mortal being are more likely to be proven. Yes his beliefs probably did start a new religion, Christianity, but the facts have been distorted for one person's gain (Emperor Constantine). How can a book that was compiled 400 years after Jesus walked the Earth be a true record of the time? And if it is a true record, where's the 40 or so Gospels (one said to be the Gospel of Jesus Christ - probably the most important of all!) that were left out of the New Testament? At least one of these Gospels have been found, and has been dated from the relevant time.

Chico, if you read my post properly, you'll know it's not the Da Vinci Code that's shaken my beliefs, I've felt that way for some time. So however much you can find articles that disprove the Da Vinci Code, it's not going to make a blind bit of difference to my own beliefs.

[Churchill]

Dazza, how can you be a Christian and not believe in Jesus Christ?

[threaded]

Is not the message the important thing, not the messengers?

The message is "You shall love your neighbor as yourself."

[Chico]

Shock / horror Chico responds with link

dazza if the Da Vinci Code has shaken your beliefs then I urge to read this

[dazza12]

Oh dear not sure where to start with this one. Bible work of fiction? Jesus never existed? Boy dazza did you came up with all this all by yourself? Ok The Da Vinci code is fiction - there we agree. I do not want to question your intelligence dazza but in light of the overwhelming evidence for the existence of Jesus Christ (both Biblical and non biblical) and the historical, scientific, archaeological proof for the Bible - I have no choice really.

What overwhelming evidence is there that Jesus existed then? Unlike you, I don't blindly follow what some weirdo in a frock has tried to tell me, or the 'facts' in the world's best selling book (the Bible).

You can't pick parts of the Old and New Testament that may be verifiable and decide that therefore the whole of the work must be true. That's blind faith.

You think I've read the Da Vinci Code and blindly followed what it said? No. I've been sceptical of the story of Jesus for many years, in fact I only read Dan Brown's books in the last few months. I'm not an atheist, I'm a Christian. Just not as gullible as some Christians.

As I have said, I have an open mind, if there is evidence to suggest either story I will look at it objectively. Before you assume though - I'm not saying I don't believe in God, just that the stories concerning JC are not only unproven but are inconsistent throughout the book.

The opinions of Matthew, Mark, Luke, John etc as evidence? I'm afraid that's not proof, it's heresay.