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Previously on "And we moan about the weather!"

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  • snaw
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    Originally posted by expat View Post
    Why is it called wastage to water the lawn when the gardener does it, but just called rain when God does it?
    So to extrapolate; gardeners are God, and to question him is heresy and deserves beheading?

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  • expat
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    Originally posted by Spacecadet View Post
    Australia - the country that wastes huge amounts of it's drinking water on their lawns



    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6620919.stm
    its


    Why is it called wastage to water the lawn when the gardener does it, but just called rain when God does it?

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  • TimberWolf
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    Originally posted by PRC1964 View Post
    Yes, it's an expensive business.

    <snip>
    In the last 30 years, the amount of energy required for desalination has fallen precipitously, and along with it the price. Decades ago it took approximately 12 kilowatt-hours of energy to produce one cubic meter of freshwater using RO technology; today it takes on average between 3 and 4 kilowatt-hours of energy. Even today, however, the cost of that energy makes up about 40 percent of the total cost to produce each cubic meter of water.
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    http://www.technologyreview.com/micr...ter/index.aspx
    That's 3 kWh per 1000 litres though, so at 10 pence per kWh = 30p per 1000 litres. Multiply by 2.5 times to factor in other costs = 75p per 1000 litres, or 0.075 pence per litre. RO is a lot cheaper than importing water bottles I'd say, not including capital and depreciation costs, etc. Distillation would probably take 200 times that amount of energy.

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  • Spacecadet
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    Australia - the country that wastes huge amounts of it's drinking water on their lawns

    One gardener we spoke to for Costing the Earth told us that 90% of his water usage is for his garden and that it would break his heart if he ever had to stop watering and give up his beloved green lawns.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6620919.stm

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  • PRC1964
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    Originally posted by Board Game Geek View Post
    A lot more expensive than importing bottles of mineral water, I suspect...
    Yes, it's an expensive business.

    <snip>
    In the last 30 years, the amount of energy required for desalination has fallen precipitously, and along with it the price. Decades ago it took approximately 12 kilowatt-hours of energy to produce one cubic meter of freshwater using RO technology; today it takes on average between 3 and 4 kilowatt-hours of energy. Even today, however, the cost of that energy makes up about 40 percent of the total cost to produce each cubic meter of water.
    </snip>


    http://www.technologyreview.com/micr...ter/index.aspx

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  • ratewhore
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    Originally posted by Troll View Post
    ...but I seem to recall it's either reverse osmosis...
    Isn't that how Coca Cola make Dasani bottled water?

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  • snaw
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    Originally posted by tay View Post
    NZ can run a hosepipe across, we have loads of fresh water. We will only charge them a small tariff
    Quid pro quo for all the kiwis living in Aus on the dole ;-)

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  • tay
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    NZ can run a hosepipe across, we have loads of fresh water. We will only charge them a small tariff

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  • expat
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    Originally posted by eliquant View Post
    how costly is it to purify sea water as apposed to just collecting it in reservoirs from rain fall ?
    Grab an iceberg detaching itself from Antarctica because of global warming, and tow it to Melbourne.

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  • Board Game Geek
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    how costly is it to purify sea water as apposed to just collecting it in reservoirs from rain fall ?
    A lot more expensive than importing bottles of mineral water, I suspect...

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  • Troll
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    Originally posted by eliquant View Post
    how costly is it to purify sea water as apposed to just collecting it in reservoirs from rain fall ?
    If i could be arsed I'd google that... but I seem to recall it's either reverse osmosis or evaporation /condensing technology

    The first produces brackish water the second eats energy but could be viable in a hot climate

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  • eliquant
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    how costly is it to purify sea water as apposed to just collecting it in reservoirs from rain fall ?

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  • Troll
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    "It just reminds us, yet again, the way in which this country, Australia, is particularly vulnerable to climate change."
    sounds like they need more taxes

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  • Diver
    started a topic And we moan about the weather!

    And we moan about the weather!

    Australia in desperate need of water

    Linky

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