At Long Last...

[TimberWolf]

I was just looking at my energy bills: 4 pence per kWh for gas and 11 pence per kWh for electricity. At first glance it looks as if the cheapest bet is to used compressed gas from the mains. The technology is already in place (apart from a compressor) and it's cheaper and there are no conversion costs.

To follow up on that. A litre of petrol contains 10kWh of energy and costs say 130 pence at the petrol station, so that's 13 pence per kWh. Mains natural gas costs 4 pence per kWh, or less than half the cost of petrol. Do you think I should tell Gordon to forget about electric / hydrogen powered cars and to switch to natural gas powered cars instead? We could pump hydrogen instead when natural gas runs out. Maybe plan B should be to sell natural gas compressors before Gordon catches on?

[TimberWolf]

Here's another solution, run your car on water.

http://www.physorg.com/news98556080.html

Well aluminium actually, hydrogen is produced from water.

[Diver]

It will produce enough gas for a 25 mile daily commute !!

[TimberWolf]

they reckon 60p a litre

Which is a bit of a meaningless quantity since the device will supply hydrogen as a (compressed) gas at some unspecified pressure unless its cooled -253 degrees centigrade.

I was just looking at my energy bills: 4 pence per kWh for gas and 11 pence per kWh for electricity. At first glance it looks as if the cheapest bet is to used compressed gas from the mains. The technology is already in place (apart from a compressor) and it's cheaper and there are no conversion costs.

[miffy]

I don't think the oil companies with like that invention.

Expect the manufacturing plant to burn down shortly after mass production starts.

Anyway, they forgot to add the chip and pin device for the deduction of duty each time you fill your car up.

[milanbenes]

not so, it is my understanding any conventional car diesel or petrol can run on hydrogen in the same way as with LPG

therefore my initial assumption is any car should be able to have a hydrogen conversion like they do for the lpg conversion with dual possibility

ok, next.

Milan.

[Moscow Mule]

dude I don't give a toss if it is 100% green, it is about reducing the cost of filling your motor up

next.

Milan.

No not next:

£2000 to buy the converter,
£?????? to buy the car,
£????? to get it plugged into your house.

It'll be a long time before it pays for itself.

Sweet.

[milanbenes]

dude I don't give a toss if it is 100% green, it is about reducing the cost of filling your motor up

next.

Milan.

[DimPrawn]

A combination of wind turbines on your roof, and solar power. Makes fuel whilst you are at work or in bed.

[Moscow Mule]

well not really cos that's how electrolysis works

they reckon 60p a litre

even less if you get PV solar panels

Milan.

But it's not 100% green is it? Unless you're sure your mains leccy is coming from a nuclear plant/renewables.

[Diver]

I'll just power mine with my 7kw diesel generator - sorted

[milanbenes]

well not really cos that's how electrolysis works

they reckon 60p a litre

even less if you get PV solar panels

Milan.

[DimPrawn]

The British invention, due to go on sale within two years, is roughly the size of a heating boiler and will cost under £2,000.

Made in China.
Size of a football pitch.
Available in about 15 years.
Costs £20,000

HTH

[Moscow Mule]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...l-station.html


Milan.

Was on the bbc too. Don't get too excited, you still need to plug it into the mains. Which is just stupid.

[milanbenes]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...l-station.html


Milan.