Reply to: If you're dead, does it matter what killed you?

[Moscow Mule]

I'm sure in the documentary on The Abyss DVD they stress that the mouse went on to lead a full rich life.

Bless the little rodent...

How do you "blow your lungs out"?

By holding your breath as you ascend with gas in your lungs.

It's a pretty f***ing stupid thing to do as it's the first thing you're taught - always keep your airway open.

That said, it's very easy to get confused at 30+m under. Especially if something unexpected happens - like getting stuck in the deep hydrobox at Stoney.

History & Description: The deep Hydro Box is little more than an upturned metal cube. There is a circular entrance in the top section with a 12 inch flange which protrudes upwards to create a short tubular entrance. This flange also extends down into the box meaning that once inside you can move either side of it and raise your head into air pockets. Here you can remove your regulator and talk (albeit in a slightly high pitched voice) due to the pressure. I would certainly advise avoiding breathing any of the stale air contained within these air pockets. Exiting the box can be done through the top entrance or by descending further and exiting on any side at the base of the box. The box itself sits up on 4 legs making a 2 foot high exiting gap all the way round the base. The interior of the box is dark and a torch is a necessity. The surrounding depth also means ambient light from the surface is at a minimum, so a torch is advisable even if you are not planning to enter the box and this a dive which should be done with the appropriate experience level.

[VectraMan]

You can make a rat (or mouse, or your small rodent of choice) breath liquid for a couple of hours. They normally die afterward due to their lungs being fubar.

I'm sure in the documentary on The Abyss DVD they stress that the mouse went on to lead a full rich life.

How do you "blow your lungs out"?

[Moscow Mule]

Wasn't the bit with the rat in The Abyss for real? I always thought that was the case. It wouldn't work for humans because of our lung capacity, or strength perhaps, and Ed Harris was having to hold his breath inside a diving suit full of water whilst swimming underwater and remembering to act.

Of course the rat bit has now been censored in the UK and is cut out of the DVD version and any time it's on TV.

You can make a rat (or mouse, or your small rodent of choice) breath liquid for a couple of hours. They normally die afterward due to their lungs being fubar.

This may have changed in the last 5-10 years as they reduce the impurities in the perfluorocarbons. You can count me out for the human trials though ;-)

[Chugnut]

Ah, biology teachers. Mine was called Sandra, I remember being in the sixth and the snogging and BJ's in the stationary room, and the mutual masturbation in the library after school.
Ah, Sandra.
Strange name for a bloke though

Position in the queue?

[Churchill]

Wasn't the bit with the rat in The Abyss for real? I always thought that was the case. It wouldn't work for humans because of our lung capacity, or strength perhaps, and Ed Harris was having to hold his breath inside a diving suit full of water whilst swimming underwater and remembering to act.

Of course the rat bit has now been censored in the UK and is cut out of the DVD version and any time it's on TV.

Our lungs are used to moving air(a gas) I should think if they were to try shifting the same amount of fluid you'd likely cause some damage.

I remember a guy at Stoney Cove blew his lungs out. There's f* all you can do for 'em when that happens.

[EternalOptimist]

I gazed too long at my biology teacher! She was ace. I particularly remember the lessons she did on reproduction...

Ah, biology teachers. Mine was called Sandra, I remember being in the sixth and the snogging and BJ's in the stationary room, and the mutual masturbation in the library after school.
Ah, Sandra.
Strange name for a bloke though

[VectraMan]

The liquid breathing experiments I've heard of all use mechanical methods to aid the lungs and Perfluorocarbons not water.

Wasn't the bit with the rat in The Abyss for real? I always thought that was the case. It wouldn't work for humans because of our lung capacity, or strength perhaps, and Ed Harris was having to hold his breath inside a diving suit full of water whilst swimming underwater and remembering to act.

Of course the rat bit has now been censored in the UK and is cut out of the DVD version and any time it's on TV.

[wobbegong]

Did you see a white light?

No.

**** me! I didn't know Rolf Harris posted on this forum!


We're not worthy..... etc.

I can barley be arsed to type at all today. Monday is 'bullet point' day.

Oh, and that last line . . . you're probably right.

[Churchill]

I nearly drowned in a pool as a kid (12 or 13 I think). Jumped in, too tired to swim, sank like a stone, brief struggle, then the oxygen starvation kicked in and I remember clouds of gently swirling colours and a sense of peace and resignation. I can actually remember thinking to my self, "ah well, that's that then."

**** me! I didn't know Rolf Harris posted on this forum!


We're not worthy..... etc.

[Troll]

I nearly drowned in a pool as a kid (12 or 13 I think). Jumped in, too tired to swim, sank like a stone, brief struggle, then the oxygen starvation kicked in and I remember clouds of gently swirling colours and a sense of peace and resignation. I can actually remember thinking to my self, "ah well, that's that then."

Next thing I know I'm face down on the ground with a lifeguard pushing water out of my lungs, and a crowd of people around me.

Not a bad way to go IMHO (preferable to burning, anyway).

Did you see a white light?

[Troll]

The problem with most of the experiments is CO2 removal rather than oxygen delivery.

could have been that .. t'was a long time ago

[wobbegong]

Depends how that lack of oxygen is delivered. Drowning, with your body gulping down great big lumps of water when it's gasping for air probably isn't a great way to go.

I nearly drowned in a pool as a kid (12 or 13 I think). Jumped in, too tired to swim, sank like a stone, brief struggle, then the oxygen starvation kicked in and I remember clouds of gently swirling colours and a sense of peace and resignation. I can actually remember thinking to my self, "ah well, that's that then."

Next thing I know I'm face down on the ground with a lifeguard pushing water out of my lungs, and a crowd of people around me.

Not a bad way to go IMHO (preferable to burning, anyway).

[BrilloPad]

Did your biology teacher gaze too long in to the abyss ?

I gazed too long at my biology teacher! She was ace. I particularly remember the lessons she did on reproduction...

[Board Game Geek]

Did your biology teacher gaze too long in to the abyss ?

[Moscow Mule]

Our Biology teacher reckoned the human lungs are capable of extracting Oxygen from water... it's just that they are not powerfull enough to circulate water in sufficient volumes to keep the blood oxygenated

I think your Biology teacher has watched "The Abyss" too many times.

The liquid breathing experiments I've heard of all use mechanical methods to aid the lungs and Perfluorocarbons not water.

The problem with most of the experiments is CO2 removal rather than oxygen delivery. It's not an experiment I'd like to be involved in...

MM in "your friendly neighbourhood Divemaster" mode