Reply to: Cisco contractors - Doomed

[Churchill]

Token ring sucks balls, much like your mother, ethernet is and shall allways be king!

Dad!

[oracleslave]

Token ring sucks balls, much like your mother

Subtle

[the_duderama]

Token ring sucks balls, much like your mother, ethernet is and shall allways be king!

[Churchill]

I've worked with tons other other network kit and found, on the whole, cisco stuff is expensive for a reason, the same reason why it's used all over the world and most of the internet and other large networks use it....

Their firewalls are gash mind, aviod like the plauge!

As for CCNA/CCIE people, yes there is a massive gap, but there is also a massive gap between no CCNA and a CCNA, most people will tell you the first step is the hardest, well maybes not as hard as the CCIE lab that is, even harder if you have no networking expereince!

Networking experience?

Come back Token-Ring!

Madge Networks, I love you!

[the_duderama]

I already have and yeah, you're probably right - don't bother me, not like I'm paying for them.

I've worked with tons other other network kit and found, on the whole, cisco stuff is expensive for a reason, the same reason why it's used all over the world and most of the internet and other large networks use it....

Their firewalls are gash mind, aviod like the plauge!

As for CCNA/CCIE people, yes there is a massive gap, but there is also a massive gap between no CCNA and a CCNA, most people will tell you the first step is the hardest, well maybes not as hard as the CCIE lab that is, even harder if you have no networking expereince!

[snaw]

Forget the last, read the original posting again, Not like Anycast at all. Ciscos still overpriced though

I already have and yeah, you're probably right - don't bother me, not like I'm paying for them.

[Incognito]

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/842197

Why use some overpriced lump of cr@p with a cisco badge to do something that Uncle Bill sorted for us years ago.

Forget the last, read the original posting again, Not like Anycast at all. Ciscos still overpriced though

[Incognito]

I'm shaking in me boots ...

Tell you what - I'll give you the rest of the day, go find out how to configure anycast - give you a clue, it involves using the same IP address in different places ;-)

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/842197

Why use some overpriced lump of cr@p with a cisco badge to do something that Uncle Bill sorted for us years ago.

[Jog On]

I don't see how this site will enable anyone to troubleshoot a broken network - if they don't already know what they're doing.

[snaw]

It's quite obvious I'm talking about the 90%+ of Cisco contractors without the CCIE.
You guys wouldn't need this anyhow, just use your superpowers to fly anti-clockwise around the Earth and travel back in time to prevent the problem before it occurs.

BTW There's 800 of us CCIE's in Britain - I reckon there's more than 8000 Cisco contractors ;-)

[snaw]

It's quite obvious I'm talking about the 90%+ of Cisco contractors without the CCIE.
You guys wouldn't need this anyhow, just use your superpowers to fly anti-clockwise around the Earth and travel back in time to prevent the problem before it occurs.

Oh ffs - did you never hear of the DOC CD (This in an earlier form), or TAC or any number of other cisco resources that have been around forever. The wiki is a great wee resource, but that's all it is - without the knowledge and understanding behind it then it's useless.

You have to know what it is you're looking for, what it is you're trying to troubleshoot, which options are available to you for a design etc. This wiki isn't going to do that - at best it'll save you an hour of searching through the doc cd ...

[ace00]

twaddle.....

there are plenty of resources on the web for every technology - the trick is to understand it and know how to implement a solution (usually through experience). One lab exam off a CCIE (security) myself and the gap I've seen working with engineers from the CCNA level engineers and those at CCIE is immence.

No amount of wiki is ever going to worry those with the experience......

It's quite obvious I'm talking about the 90%+ of Cisco contractors without the CCIE.
You guys wouldn't need this anyhow, just use your superpowers to fly anti-clockwise around the Earth and travel back in time to prevent the problem before it occurs.

[jimjamuk]

twaddle.....

there are plenty of resources on the web for every technology - the trick is to understand it and know how to implement a solution (usually through experience). One lab exam off a CCIE (security) myself and the gap I've seen working with engineers from the CCNA level engineers and those at CCIE is immence.

No amount of wiki is ever going to worry those with the experience......

[ace00]

http://www.oracle.com/support/index.html
Now you're an Oracle DBA.

Prefer SAP?
http://www.sap.com/services/bysubject/support/index.epx

Having the manual is not enough to make an expert.

FFS these are just vague advertising product descriptions, the Cisco WIKI is deep.
And Mr. "oops did I forget to mention I'm CCIE, silly me", you is wrong. There is a ton of info in the WIKI especially for support level (CCNA) bods. Take a look at it..
It's no biggie for me, these days I have my people do that kind of thing for me.

[Moscow Mule]

Actually pure co-incidence
But definition is one thing, go configure it ;-)

BTW Did I mention I'm a CCIE ...

The wiki is nothing new, just the DOC CD for dummies - interpreting it and doing config, design/troubleshooting is something entirely different. That wiki probably represents less than .01 percent of what you actually need to be able to cover

I'm afraid that's about 80% greek to me.

I only wish there was something less unintelligible than this which I tend to need to refer to quite a bit these days...