Reply to: Oh Dear (tm) More surveillance, more taxes to follow

[Churchill]

However, it must said that it's better than the start of the decline of the Roman empire, which seemed to involve legionaires having their bowels nailed to trees in some dark dank Germanic forest....

If you is talking about the Romans, don't you mean "Legionaries"?

[expat]

Apparently there was some obscure part of China that got relinquished in 1926 that marked the beginning of the end...

Was that Quemoy or Matsu?

[expat]

The Empire was finished once the Brits got out of India...

It was really finished before that. And then it lingered, as empires do, to bankrupt the imperialist.

What was not necessary was to spend all of the little wealth we had left in trying to stay as a world power: ending up just a poodle of a world power. Enoch was right about that.

[expat]

Wonderful example of taking what someone said out of context. He never said that the British Empire would last 1000 years. The full quote is



He is not saying here that the Empire will last 1000 years. He is saying If it lasts 1000 years we will still say “This was their finest hour.”

I know that. But I am far from the first to notice the strange coincidence of Hitler and Churchill using the "last 1000 years" phrase within a few years of each other, in both cases, of empires that did not.

IOW I was talking "used the phrase 'last 1000 years'", which related to the thread; not alleging that "WC said empire would last 1000 years".

Yes I took it out of context. Its context was not what I was talking about.

Jesus, where's the Bangs Head Against Brick Wall smiley?

[BrilloPad]

Wonderful example of taking what someone said out of context. He never said that the British Empire would last 1000 years. The full quote is



He is not saying here that the Empire will last 1000 years. He is saying If it lasts 1000 years we will still say “This was their finest hour.”

When did he say that? IMO the empire was finished by the end of WWI. I know that technically the sun never sets on the British "Empire" - but it is not much of a collection of countries is it?

[zathras]

...if this empire of ours should last a thousand years..." -- Winston Churchill.

Wonderful example of taking what someone said out of context. He never said that the British Empire would last 1000 years. The full quote is

"Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duty, and so bear ourselves that if the British Empire and its Commonwealth last for a thousand years, men will still say, “This was their finest hour.”

He is not saying here that the Empire will last 1000 years. He is saying If it lasts 1000 years we will still say “This was their finest hour.”

[HairyArsedBloke]

You forgot

"There can be only one
This rage that lasts a thousand years
Will soon be done" A Kind of magic, Queen.

[expat]

Not to mention a lack of ambition.

FFS, what's so special about 1000 years?

Yeah, I know Hitler couldn't manage it, but he was a short-arse Austrian.

"The Third Reich will last a thousand years." -- Adolf Hitler.
"...if this empire of ours should last a thousand years..." -- Winston Churchill.
"I don't see blackmajority rule in my lifetime. Not in a thousand years". -- Ian Smith.

What is special about 1000 years is that as soon as someone says that their power will last that long, they are dooooomed!

[Churchill]

Start small & build up...

Not to mention a lack of ambition.

FFS, what's so special about 1000 years?

Yeah, I know Hitler couldn't manage it, but he was a short-arse Austrian.

[Churchill]

Thank you kindly...

Will it be the standard 1000 year reign?

Shows a certain lack of stamina, dontcha think?

[BrilloPad]

By George he's got it!

Bring on a nuclear winter & we won't have to worry about global warming or anything much any more!

Brillo for President!

Being president means I get my own bunker! Zeity will be my minister for alien lizards and can join me.

[BrilloPad]

Really? That's the Tories?

I always thought it was the tooth fairy... wow!

Knock out a tooth, put it under your pillow, stay up all night to watch then report back to us.

HTH

[BrilloPad]

CO2 comprises 0.0384% by volume of the Earths atmosphere.
we (Mankind) produce 4% of the worlds CO2.
we (Britain) produce 2% of 4% that mankind produces.

Why the flip are we(Britain) taxed to the bollocks for producing 0.0008% of the worlds CO2?

Dont the Chinese produce alot of the world's co2? could we nuke em?

[Ruprect]

They had to do it coz of all the bad teeth after Thatcher snatched the kiddies milk.

Honest.

Kindly avoid this concatenation of words in all future posts. Thanks.

[kali]

...but I'd find it easier to believe that they'll leave a sixpence for every tooth they find under the pillow.

Really? That's the Tories?

I always thought it was the tooth fairy... wow!