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Previously on "The value of a non-scientific education ..."

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  • oracleslave
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    Originally posted by Lucy View Post
    I wonder what kind of scientist sas is...

    mad?
    Something like this?

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  • Lucy
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    I wonder what kind of scientist sas is...

    mad?

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  • oracleslave
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    Originally posted by sasguru View Post
    Indeed. Good back up of my point.
    Good interpretation of the evidence

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  • sasguru
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    Originally posted by oracleslave View Post
    Indeed. Good back up of my point.

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  • oracleslave
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    Originally posted by sasguru View Post
    You are exposing your cretinism. What has the craft of programming to do with science? Most programmers have very little knowledge of science as some of the threads on this forum show.
    Originally posted by sasguru View Post
    Your convictions stem from an in depth analysis of the evidence I presume?
    Some people are convinced they have been abducted by aliens. Your convictions have about the same validity.

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  • sasguru
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    Originally posted by Francko View Post
    Your brain is just uncapable of the minimum logical connection. First you claim that to do technical jobs you only need an average intelligence. Now you are claiming that only people with science knowledge are of value. ?
    You are exposing your cretinism. What has the craft of programming to do with science? Most programmers have very little knowledge of science as some of the threads on this forum show.

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  • BrilloPad
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    Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
    Also, science needn't be boring these days. For example there's Britney Spears' Guide to Semiconductor Physics
    "It is a little known fact, that Ms Spears is an expert in semiconductor physics. Not content with just singing and acting".

    You call THAT singing and acting?

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  • OwlHoot
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    Also, science needn't be boring these days. For example there's Britney Spears' Guide to Semiconductor Physics

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  • Francko
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    Originally posted by sasguru View Post
    ...is virtually nil, IMHO.
    Plenty of slightly clever people study pseudo-sciences like Economics or Politics etc. yet have no clue about the value or not of their so-called knowledge. They don't have a clue about the epistemological basis of their discipline - but are good at writing essays and passing exams.
    I would wager that I could get an advanced degree in any non-scientific discipline purely by sticking to the current zeitgeist.
    If people can't grasp the basics of the scientific method or the mathematical and statistical underpinnings of evidence-based knowledge, what fliping use are their opinions?
    Your brain is just uncapable of the minimum logical connection. First you claim that to do technical jobs you only need an average intelligence. Now you are claiming that only people with science knowledge are of value. What's the purpose of your posts? And of your life in general?

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  • BrilloPad
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    Isn't that 60's?
    Its a fair cop!

    Roll out the barrel....

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  • EternalOptimist
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    Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
    Which is not what you said originally
    Power is about getting people to do things they would not do voluntarily




    Dont post when you have been doing drugs Dodgy






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  • DodgyAgent
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    Originally posted by EternalOptimist View Post
    er..


    If they dont want to go along, the definition of power is that you can make them do it anyways




    Which is not what you said originally

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    Yeeeeaaahhh grrrooovvyy bbbaabbbyyy!
    Isn't that 60's?

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  • EternalOptimist
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    Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
    So you measure power by the negative dynamic of getting as many people to do what they dont want to do, even if that ends up diminishing your own position?

    So if for example I want to dominate the recruitment industry and become the most powerful person in it, I would only succeed by getting all those around me to do what they dont want to do? What if everyone around me by getting what they want also enabled me to get what I want?

    I would sue your teacher if I were you.
    er..

    I didnt talk about measuring
    I didnt talk about market domination


    I am sure the best way for you to dominate your particular niche is for you to get your people to pull in harness with you. For your interests and theirs to coincide. I dont think anyone would disagree with you.

    You might persuade them
    You might coerce them
    You might bribe them

    You might get them to pull with you in a million different ways, BUT

    If they dont want to go along, the definition of power is that you can make them do it anyways

    I dont want to pay my corporation tax in August. but I will.



    I hate to say it, and I am probably wrong, I usually am, but I think you may, possibly be missing the point



    Last edited by EternalOptimist; 30 May 2008, 19:32.

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  • DodgyAgent
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    Originally posted by EternalOptimist View Post
    I was taught

    Politics is about power
    Power is about getting people to do things they would not do voluntarily


    The philosophical angle is hogwash. What would happen if all the philosophers in the world went on strike tomorrow ?




    So you measure power by the negative dynamic of getting as many people to do what they dont want to do, even if that ends up diminishing your own position?

    So if for example I want to dominate the recruitment industry and become the most powerful person in it, I would only succeed by getting all those around me to do what they dont want to do? What if everyone around me by getting what they want also enabled me to get what I want?

    I would sue your teacher if I were you.

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