Reply to: Goodbye New Lie

[pisces]

So who are the liberals then?

The English entry in Eurovision.

Doomed!!

[BrilloPad]

So in summary,

The new conservatives are like the older style new labour who copied the old conservatives in order to get people to vote for them again?

So who are the liberals then?

[pisces]

So in summary,

The new conservatives are like the older style new labour who copied the old conservatives in order to get people to vote for them again?

[HairyArsedBloke]

<- Exactly.

[chicane]

Not like current New Labour, like Blair's days.

Ah - so like Old New Labour, rather than New New Labour. Or something like that...

[stackpole]

I can see where you're coming from, but what political party would want to present themselves like New Labour given their current woes?

Not like current New Labour, like Blair's days.

[chicane]

The opposite is true. Tories are different to New Labour, but present themselves like New Labour because that is what gets votes.

I can see where you're coming from, but what political party would want to present themselves like New Labour given their current woes?

[stackpole]

Little do they realize that the tories are labour in disguise these days.

What crap. Where do you get your political nous, off the shelf at Asda?

The opposite is true. Tories are different to New Labour, but present themselves like New Labour because that is what gets votes.

[HairyArsedBloke]

HairyArsedBloke, you'd get my vote.

I wouldn't go as far as executing anyone, although perhaps that was tongue in cheek (or maybe not ). But one of my reasons is along the lines of "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me", in that having won three elections in a row the blame now lies not with them but us, so to speak, where the latter is a sufficiently large proportion of gullible voters.

I am for the full hung, drawn, and quartered that is traditional in cases of treason. It should be done in public and shown on prime-time telly. Ring side seats and overseas PPV would bring in a fortune.

A recording of the execution should be shown to MP’s after each Queens’s speech to remind them what will happen to them if they dare to repeat this sorry time. This has been the darkest period in British history in the last few hundred years. The full story is yet to be told.

[OwlHoot]

HairyArsedBloke, you'd get my vote.

I wouldn't go as far as executing anyone, although perhaps that was tongue in cheek (or maybe not ). But one of my reasons is along the lines of "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me", in that having won three elections in a row the blame now lies not with them but us, so to speak, where the latter is a sufficiently large proportion of gullible voters.

[TimberWolf]

Here is the HairyArsed manifesto:

You'd get my vote.

[pisces]

More excuses are not exactly what the country needs.

Why, what excuses are new ******* using now?

[HairyArsedBloke]

David Cameron’s standing ovation for B’Liar was the final straw for me. At the final question time he should have said something like “we will see you and the rest of you gangsters hang for what you have done”. He is trying to turn the Conservative Party in nuLieBore II or as it is now named “David Cameron’s Conservatives”. I do not believe that there is any real prospect of improvements in the lives of ordinary people.

Here is the HairyArsed manifesto:

Before there can be any tax cuts, and they are desperately needed, there has to be massive cuts in current and future expenditure. The principal target has to be the public sector payroll and pension commitments. Almost all of those who have been hired by nuLieBore should be dismissed and their pensions cancelled on the grounds that they were originated under false pretences.

Membership of the European Union costs the country far more than it receives in benefit above what it could obtain as being in a free association. Withdrawal should be immediate.

I must admit that at the time I did agree with the military interventions in Afghanistan and Iraq. At the time I was spending a lot of time the other side of the Atlantic and I fell for the lies that came from the British government. I still see these as separate campaigns; but I have doubts about Afghanistan, and don’t believe we should have had anything to do with Iraq.

Obviously scrap ID Cards and all those other idiotic government IT projects.

One piece of new expenditure would be a full public enquiry into the activities of the nuLieBore regime and their supporters (collaborators). Full commitment should be made to repairing the damage done to both individuals and the country as a whole. Once the members of nuLieBore have been executed, the proceeds from the estates should cover the cost of the enquiry making it self-financing in the end.

It is going to take two or more generations (i.e. > 50 years) to repair the damage done to the UK. I may not get there with you, but we, as a people, will get to the Promised Land.

[BrilloPad]

I'm afraid I agree with Baggy. The Tories have been short on clear policy.
I'm hoping they have some secret radical plans in the bag to turn back the increasingly large state.

I dont believe they do. No difference between them. I have voted tory every time (6 times now - even 1997) but I wont be next time.

David Cameron's comments about "feckless fathers" did not help much either.

[Cyberman]

Given the current economic woes the Conservatives could inherit a poisoned chalice - what to do ?

Having given this matter great thought, the best solution would be to scrap
the proposed Trident upgrade - which amounts to a vast amount of UK taxpayers money being awared to the US millitary industrial complex for no
apparent strategic millitary justification.


What does the panel think - could this be a trump card for the Conservatives ?

The Tories have inherited a poison chalice every time New Lie/Labour lose power, and each time the Tories have left power New Lie have been given a growing economy.
New Lie have never turned a bad situation around, so it's up to the Tories yet again. Hopefully, the electorate will at last see this and keep the high-taxing, corrupt, failing and controlling socialists out for a very long time.
I see this as a great opportunity for the wealth-creating Tories.