Reply to: Global Warming - Have you had a rethink?

[ratewhore]

Wouldn't a hotter planet cause more water to evaporate from the seas causing more clouds and rain and so cool the planet?

I think you're forgetting about those big bits of ice at the top and bottom of the world melting and increasing the sea level and drowning billions of people...


...or something like that!

[TimberWolf]

Global warming experiment for beginners

Okay, inspired by Marina's post on heat capacity (surely not a girl?), anyone can do this experiment at home and disprove global warming for themselves.

Equipment:

Water
Saucepan
Ice cubes
Thermometer
Bunsen burner

Method:

Water and ice placed into a saucepan. A thermometer shows the initial temperature of the water to be 2 degrees centigrade. Heat is applied to the saucepan and is continued to be applied until I got bored and went home.

Conclusion:

No increase in temperature of the water was detected during the experiment. Rather, despite continued and vigorous heating, the temperature dropped and maintained zero degrees centigrade. This is not fully explained but it is concluded that a saucepan warming theory is complete and utter bulltulip. HTH

[lambrini_socialist]

I love the way everyone is completely ignoring that gay leftie, Lambrini Socialist.

i am reliably informed that DimPrawn enjoys "touching the nut", once ate a spunky Hob Nob biscuit "for a bet" after a 5-a-side game and is secretly considering voting for Brian Paddick in the upcoming London mayoral elections. while rifling through his bins i found copies of Illustrated Gay Builder Monthly and New Internationalist.

[Tex]

So is the conclusion of that Daily Mail article that we should tax Chinese takeaways? Sorry but I have a short attention span.

[DimPrawn]

I love the way everyone is completely ignoring that gay leftie, Lambrini Socialist.

[lukemg]

Is the climate changing - yes (well, probably)
Can you do anything - no.
Has it always happened - yes.
If you want to salve your middle-class misplaced conscience, by all means use public transport/bikes and all the other pitiful activities but PLEASE don't bore the bo!!ocks off me with your totally inaccurate 'facts' about how the world works.
IF the major problem is the burning of fossil fuels then 'hussah' we are saved as these are all running out and the 'carbon age' will have started and finished in a time period equivalent to the blink of an eye in the history of the world.
There are too many people in the world who all want the same comforts and life as you enjoy, that's the inconvenient truth that you can't fix !
China is opening a new coal power station every WEEK, good luck 'offsetting' that.

[lambrini_socialist]

Climate Scientist #1: Hmm, why isn't my computer working?

Climate Scientist #2: Looks like the object-oriented discombobulator is broken.

Climate Scientist #3: Nah, it's run out of SQL, that's all. I saw a documentary about computers on Channel 5. Computers are always running out of SQL, aparrently.

Climate Scientist #2: Bullsht! Bill Gates said "no computer will ever need more than 32kbps of SQL". So it must be the object-oriented discombobulator.

Climate Scientist #4: Shut up, all of you. The computer isn't even broken. It's just a conspiracy by those IT contractors to make more money out of our department. They want you to think it's broken.

Climate Scientist #1: Ooh ooh! I know! Is it Y2k?

and so on and so forth...

[TimberWolf]

Climate change is real, always has been. And life has always had a major impact on the Earths climate; it can even affect the surface crust of the planet. Early life also released a toxic element into the atmosphere (oxygen) which the early life forms hated and almost destroyed themselves. Their ancestors today eek out a living in places such as bogs and intestines. Then we oxygen eaters came along. I think that about brings us up to date.

descendants


Here's the first crappy link I came across that verifies what I say.
http://www.teachersdomain.org/resour...gen/index.html

There was a time early in earth's history, however, when living organisms not only did not need oxygen, but were killed when exposed to the element.

[Marina]

Don't know if this was posted here, but I was reading this in the pub a couple of weeks ago, and the man talks an awful lot of sense.

Nigel Lawson in the Daily Mail:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770

I always liked Nigel Lawson, even if his pre-announced abolition of mortgage interest relief was a bit of a cock up. He has a clear simple style, and that article effortlessly demolishes most of the leftie global warming scaremongering agenda.

However, just because temperatures are holding steady for a while doesn't mean the energy retained in the environment isn't increasing - Water has a heat capacity several times larger than air, and there's an awful lot of it.

There's also a lot of ice at feezing point, and this needs to absorb a lot of energy (the latent energy of freezing) to thaw.

[lambrini_socialist]

slightly OT, but i've always suspected that if global warming were caused by something other than fossil fuel emissions, the motoring lobby wouldn't be so skeptical about the whole business.

"i realised that global warming is a lie at precisely the same time i realised that, if it were true, i might have to lift a finger in order to do something about it." what a facking coincidence!

[TimberWolf]

It's all balls. Wait till we have a sunspot that knocks us into 10 years of cooling and they all start boasting about how we have managed to stop global warming, or how we are all going to die in a new ice age, or how it is now climate change etc etc.

Load of old toss.

Climate change is real, always has been. And life has always had a major impact on the Earths climate; it can even affect the surface crust of the planet. Early life also released a toxic element into the atmosphere (oxygen) which the early life forms hated and almost destroyed themselves. Their ancestors today eek out a living in places such as bogs and intestines. Then we oxygen eaters came along. I think that about brings us up to date.

[Ardesco]

It's all balls. Wait till we have a sunspot that knocks us into 10 years of cooling and they all start boasting about how we have managed to stop global warming, or how we are all going to die in a new ice age, or how it is now climate change etc etc.

Load of old toss.

[tay]

I like the term Watermelon that is used. Thin green outer skin, but red in the core.

[Xenophon]

She's got fat knees.

Apparently.

... and I thought I was fussy!

[EternalOptimist]

Wouldn't a hotter planet cause more water to evaporate from the seas causing more clouds and rain and so cool the planet?

If there was any sort of regulation like that the global temperature would be remarkably stable, which it isn't.