Reply to: policing the net - spot the flaw

[bogeyman]

We know where you live user 157.56.43.04

As of today, I know not only where YOU live, but also the details of your expense claims.

Expect retribution!

[Gordon Brown]

I fear you are correct Milan.

If the convicted sex offenders need to register their email addresses, next it will be anyone convicted for any reason, and then everyone else - guilty or not.

Not only will it be email addresses, but eventually IP addresses (by co-opting/threatening ISPs and other providers).

Think of the advantages for our Jackie!

Publicly, It will help combat paedos, terrorists, ID theives, and protect 'hard working families' etc. etc.

Covertly, it will be another huge step for our jackbooted government in monitoring and recording almost everything we do.

The anonymity, unaccountability and freedom of speech the Internet offers just doesn't sit well with our lords and masters, and they fully intend to do something about it.

The total-surveillance state is almost upon us.

The UK will be pioneering this, with the Yanks not far behind.

We know where you live user 157.56.43.04

[bogeyman]

but reading between the lines and a bit of creative thought....
...

tell me I am wrong

Milan.

I fear you are correct Milan.

If the convicted sex offenders need to register their email addresses, next it will be anyone convicted for any reason, and then everyone else - guilty or not.

Not only will it be email addresses, but eventually IP addresses (by co-opting/threatening ISPs and other providers).

Think of the advantages for our Jackie!

Publicly, It will help combat paedos, terrorists, ID theives, and protect 'hard working families' etc. etc.

Covertly, it will be another huge step for our jackbooted government in monitoring and recording almost everything we do.

The anonymity, unaccountability and freedom of speech the Internet offers just doesn't sit well with our lords and masters, and they fully intend to do something about it.

The total-surveillance state is almost upon us.

The UK will be pioneering this, with the Yanks not far behind.

[milanbenes]

FaQQer,

FaQ off.

Milan.

[TheFaQQer]

Even a blind chicken gets a piece of corn every now and again. Have no fear it won't last.

I prefer "sun shines on a dogs arse some days"

[oracleslave]

God, I can barely believe it - First there's every sign ATW was right about widespread nationalization of Banks, even in the US, and now barely a week later Milan might also be right.

My world is falling apart

Even a blind chicken gets a piece of corn every now and again. Have no fear it won't last.

[Marina]

'Convicted paedophiles may be required to provide their email address to the police, who will give it to social networking sites like MySpace and require them to ban the offender.
'


lads, you're missing the point.

Email Addresses are two a penny today....

but reading between the lines and a bit of creative thought....

perhaps the plan in the future is to register email addresses to their owners like cars and houses, have a government department supplying email address only under licensed name spaces eg companies, hotmail, etc which to generate an email address require ID and proof of address etc

and voila, any email address not in a registered namespace and not carrying the registered digital signature will be captured by the ISP and not able to complete it's journey

tell me I am wrong

Milan.

God, I can barely believe it - First there's every sign ATW was right about widespread nationalization of Banks, even in the US, and now barely a week later Milan might also be right.

My world is falling apart

[The Lone Gunman]

or much about paedos. Apparently after operation Ore, or whatever it was called, when they bagged thousands of paedophiles from credit card payments, dozens of the critters _knowing_ they'd already been rumbled, simply carried on using the same cards to pay for more kiddie porn images.

That's how compulsive they are - It's a form of madness really, when taken to extremes. (Sort of like PC gaming )

According to a prog on the beeb last night, they kept on using those credit cards because they were not actualy their cards to start with.

[Marina]

Convicted paedophiles may be required to provide their email address to the police, who will give it to social networking sites like MySpace and require them to ban the offender.

Somehow I fell that those who thought up this idea don't know much about the internet.

or much about paedos. Apparently after operation Ore, or whatever it was called, when they bagged thousands of paedophiles from credit card payments, dozens of the critters _knowing_ they'd already been rumbled, simply carried on using the same cards to pay for more kiddie porn images.

That's how compulsive they are - It's a form of madness really, when taken to extremes. (Sort of like PC gaming )

[expat]

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perhaps the plan in the future is to register email addresses to their owners like cars and houses, have a government department supplying email address only under licensed name spaces eg companies, hotmail, etc which to generate an email address require ID and proof of address etc

and voila, any email address not in a registered namespace and not carrying the registered digital signature will be captured by the ISP and not able to complete it's journey

tell me I am wrong

Milan.

Dearly wish I could.

[Sysman]

perhaps the plan in the future is to register email addresses to their owners like cars and houses, have a government department supplying email address only under licensed name spaces eg companies, hotmail, etc which to generate an email address require ID and proof of address etc

and voila, any email address not in a registered namespace and not carrying the registered digital signature will be captured by the ISP and not able to complete it's journey

tell me I am wrong

It's already happening here, sort of. I have my own mail server, but to save lots of dosh I changed to an ISP and plan which only gives dynamic IP addresses. As a result of the vast amounts of spam coming from zombied PCs, an awful lot of folks are now blocking e-mails which originate from dynamic addresses.

Net result: I have already been forced to route non-web e-mails through my ISP. Where I am registered of course, and logged.

Question: What is the real reason behind all that nonsense spam?

[TheFaQQer]

Who advises these muppets?

I'll have a word next time she's in the coffee lounge.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

'Convicted paedophiles may be required to provide their email address to the police, who will give it to social networking sites like MySpace and require them to ban the offender.
'


lads, you're missing the point.

Email Addresses are two a penny today....

but reading between the lines and a bit of creative thought....

perhaps the plan in the future is to register email addresses to their owners like cars and houses, have a government department supplying email address only under licensed name spaces eg companies, hotmail, etc which to generate an email address require ID and proof of address etc

and voila, any email address not in a registered namespace and not carrying the registered digital signature will be captured by the ISP and not able to complete it's journey

tell me I am wrong

Milan.

Aye, and linked to someone else's fingerprints in the ID card databse.

[milanbenes]

'Convicted paedophiles may be required to provide their email address to the police, who will give it to social networking sites like MySpace and require them to ban the offender.
'


lads, you're missing the point.

Email Addresses are two a penny today....

but reading between the lines and a bit of creative thought....

perhaps the plan in the future is to register email addresses to their owners like cars and houses, have a government department supplying email address only under licensed name spaces eg companies, hotmail, etc which to generate an email address require ID and proof of address etc

and voila, any email address not in a registered namespace and not carrying the registered digital signature will be captured by the ISP and not able to complete it's journey

tell me I am wrong

Milan.

[DimPrawn]

Heard this on the news this morning - Jackie Smith didn't even know enough to properly answer the presenter: "but how secure is this? I mean, email addresses are two-a-penny, it would take 5 min for someone with even the most basic knowledge to get past this". Her reply? "Well I'm not saying it's a perfect solution..." Too bloody right Jackie.

Who advises these muppets?

"Consultants" on £2000 a day paid out of tax payers money who happen to work for big consultancy companies that also happen to donate large amounts of cash to the Labour Party. Go figure.