Reply to: Market in Scotland….

[threaded]

Bollocks...the overseas testers are tulipe. Mate has just walked back into another contract at RBS in Edinburgh after a 6 month gig elsewhere.

Yet another co-incidence: One of my clients in Denmark tried cheap testers, and now they're flying in UK contractors, also some Aus and Kiwis.

[Sausage Surprise]

I used to work for a consultancy in Scotland, so have got to know a couple of Scottish contractors.

It appears that a large Indian consultancy (of the same name that has bought Jaguar) is doing testing at considerably cheaper rates for the RBS, NAG amongst at least one other major Scottish company. This is bound to be pushing rates and positions down.

Just wondering how things are from those on the ground? Living close to Manchester Airport I have good links by train, plane and automobile to Glasgow, hence was thinking about Scotland as an exit route from Permiedom.

Having said that, last time I looked rates were around the £220 mark for what I am getting over 50% over that here in the North West.

Appears that the Scots may be pushed out of their own country, or have to go permie…..

Bollocks...the overseas testers are tulipe. Mate has just walked back into another contract at RBS in Edinburgh after a 6 month gig elsewhere.

[Ardesco]

I used to work for a consultancy in Scotland, so have got to know a couple of Scottish contractors.

It appears that a large Indian consultancy (of the same name that has bought Jaguar) is doing testing at considerably cheaper rates for the RBS, NAG amongst at least one other major Scottish company. This is bound to be pushing rates and positions down.

Just wondering how things are from those on the ground? Living close to Manchester Airport I have good links by train, plane and automobile to Glasgow, hence was thinking about Scotland as an exit route from Permiedom.

Having said that, last time I looked rates were around the £220 mark for what I am getting over 50% over that here in the North West.

Appears that the Scots may be pushed out of their own country, or have to go permie…..

Tata infotech has been around for donkeys of years. I was working with one of their coding teams about 6 years ago. Standard Indian service. 2 guys that are tulip hot. 1-2 guys that know their area very well but know nothing outside their area. 40-50 useless muppets kept on to make it look like the client is getting value for money.

Generally speaking most Indian test teams I have come across only perform positive path testing and they will not raise defects if the bug is not found by running one of their test scripts. Taking all this into account I'm really not that worried about it. Most businesses use Indian test teams to do a large number of documented iterations that they can show to shareholders as proof of testing effort, while the main QA is done by a small team in the UK that knows what they are doing.

[Marina]

Barclays wealth are desperate for people in their new glasgow offices. they are actually cold calling around JP morgan, rbs, morgan stanley etc. I know some really really crap contractors that no-one else would touch are in barclays as they are taking anyone thay can get. Scotland is booming at the moment for contractors....come on up, plently to go around...just bring your woolly jumpers you soft southerners.

What skills are they after, GUI or Back office?

Do they insist on financial background, or would sound generic perl & .Net (VB.NET & C#) be OK?

[Board Game Geek]

all down to cost surely, no matter how bad a service they provide.

Correct 100%.

Shareholders are not interested if the service they invest in is pants.

So long as the figures are good on the dividends, then why should they worry ?

[DimPrawn]

Yeah - fair enough. But you could change your fukcing awful avatar too,

I mean, God, how awful is that, eh?

Comrade, is that a squirrel in your pocket, or are you just pleased to see me?

[Moose423956]

If Tata stuff up, then things will be nice and rosy.

Every offshore company I've been involved with has stuffed up, but they still seem to be kept on. It's all down to cost surely, no matter how bad a service they provide.

[bogeyman]

I am bored of this Wilmslow character, his creator needs to a new character.

Yeah - fair enough. But you could change your fukcing awful avatar too,

I mean, God, how awful is that, eh?

[Dow Jones]

Thanks MK

I see now - not quite what Wilm-slow said:
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a lot of finance work in England comes from Scotland.

Eg:

Barclays Wealth
RBS

Amongst others
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it's the other way round!
Or Barclays (overdue) expansion to Scotland.

[Meerkat]

Barclays wealth are desperate for people in their new glasgow offices. they are actually cold calling around JP morgan, rbs, morgan stanley etc. I know some really really crap contractors that no-one else would touch are in barclays as they are taking anyone thay can get. Scotland is booming at the moment for contractors....come on up, plently to go around...just bring your woolly jumpers you soft southerners.

[Dow Jones]

Mis-informed

Wilm-slow you are probably referring to testing jobs that Tata is providing. There are still opportunities for devs, BAs, PMs, etc.
BTW, I know where RBS and HBOS are based, but fail to see the Scottish connection with Barclays Wealth. Would you mind elaborating?

[tay]

I am bored of this Wilmslow character, his creator needs to a new character.

[bogeyman]

I always thought scotland was safe from outsourcing because of the language barrier.

[sidjames] Whah hah ha ha haaaagh... heee heee hee hee haaaaaaa [/sidjames]

[miffy]

Wilmslowwww!!

<<canned laughter>>

[Pickle2]

I always thought scotland was safe from outsourcing because of the language barrier.