Reply to: UK police

[AtW]

Point conceded.

That's something women never do even if they know that they are wrong. Just another point for you to concede

[Crazyhorse]

Point conceded.

[AtW]

You mean "he" surely.

I am pretty sure its "she" -- her feminine side is self-evident from the way she argues

[Crazyhorse]

yet she clearly refuses ....

You mean "he" surely.

[AtW]

I think you misunderstood atw, the UK has very little corruption.

Yes I know that, and that's exactly what I was saying however Sandy seems to believe its not the case, yet she clearly refuses to test it by attempting to bride police officer or judge.

[Crazyhorse]

I think you misunderstood atw, the UK has very little corruption.

[Crazyhorse]

In contrast to the UK: today on bbc.co.uk

Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko is to disband the country's traffic police because it has proved impossible to stamp out corruption

[AtW]

according to worldaudit uk is 10th least corrupt place on the planet

Problem with places is that they don't show up weights, for example UK might be 10th in the world by quality of life where as Iraq could be 150th, but the difference between UK and Iraq won't be 15 times, the difference will be a fecking infinity.

So yes, UK might not be the most possible ideal place in the world insofar as corruption is concerned, however if you check some real sh1tholes not far from these shores you would consider that this country has no corruption whatsoever.

Finally, it is one thing if some people somewhere are corrupt, and its totally another when corruption becomes the way of life, forced on pretty much all citizens of the country like it happens in Russia.

[Crazyhorse]

according to worldaudit uk is 10th least corrupt place on the planet, the iccr makes it 11th, either way sandywhateverthenameis is wide of the mark.

[AtW]

And in most case's there is abosultly nothing you can do about it, unless maybe bribe someone else to do something about it.

Yeah, pretty much the only other way to use "friends" who will ask buarocract in question to actually do their job without asking for bribe -- this also happens when you bribe their boss.

You see corruption in Russia is self-evident from this custom -- boxes of chocolate given to secretaries or low (normally female) clerks in govt buildings, this is acceptable and in fact more or less required.

[Not So Wise]

Sandy, while i agree corruption exists in this country and is greater than most people think, it is no where near the levels nor as blatant as it is in other countrys like russia and north africa.

Here you might bribe an official to jump the line or get things done faster. In other countrys you bribe them to just get things done, period. And in most case's there is abosultly nothing you can do about it, unless maybe bribe someone else to do something about it.

[AtW]

Yawn .... again I am employed, and get paid ... you are NOT

I am employed by my own startup, I see nothing wrong with me not being paid because this is typical for startups. I have not looked for job ever since I quit my last one and not going to for a long time, thus I can't see how your words about you being paid and me not being paid has any relevance.

[SandyDown]

How about we conduct two experiments:
1) you will get drunk, I drop a tip off to British police and you will try to bribe them
2) same with me with Russian police

Wanna take or you just know for fact you will get done for drink driving as well as briding policeman?



It is not trivial, but I am not suprised it escapes you -- your knowledge of searches is limited to how to run SELECT statement.

Yawn .... again I am employed, and get paid ... you are NOT

[AtW]

How about we conduct two experiments:
1) you will get drunk, I drop a tip off to British police and you will try to bribe them
2) same with me with Russian police

Wanna take or you just know for fact you will get done for drink driving as well as briding policeman?

now piss off and go back to your trivial search engine

It is not trivial, but I am not suprised it escapes you -- your knowledge of searches is limited to how to run SELECT statement.

[SandyDown]

I base my opinion on what you can possible know based on what you say -- you say this country's police is corrupt, and clearly you don't know what you talking about because you have not seen real corrupt police that I have seen.



We are talking about police here -- lets not confuse "connections" needed to get preferential treatment, and giving bribes to police to let off, or immigration officials to pass the border without checks on luggage.



Again you are clueless -- bobbies on the beat don't do that, their high positioned superiors might try to pull one off, but this does not affect country overall because what affects people is what happens on the lower level -- normal police you see on streets, not what happens in HQ with superintendant taking bribe from preferred IT bidder -- that's different story.

Yawn... Yawn... you just can't take it that someone else knows more than you do, I have many friends in the uk police and some of them are bobbies on the beat, I repeat again (I know people like you need to be told things more than once so that they understand it) just because people on the street can't bribe a policeman, this doesn't mean they are not getting big pribes from somewhere else... now piss off and go back to your trivial search engine